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Why do people dislike this game?

#1Coconut_LubePosted 5/24/2012 8:05:41 PM
I thought it was pretty decent. Is it because of the whole R=U thing? Or is it just the fact that Ultimecia sort of pops out of nowhere as the main villain?
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#2ChaosArbiterPosted 5/24/2012 8:42:36 PM
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#3hairgel623Posted 5/24/2012 9:18:19 PM
Because it came after FFVII, the first 3d FF ever. People who played it first hated the changes. People who played VIII first prefer VIII usually, as it is with most people and their first FF.
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#4Vir27Posted 5/24/2012 9:39:53 PM
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#5crunchy612Posted 5/24/2012 10:04:28 PM
Ultimecia popping out of nowhere isn't really surprising. *points to FF4* at least, i hope it isn't. The fact that this was the probably second FF game most have played.... Well, Ulti being like that can be bad for their tastes.

Also, the haters are also not smart enough to use Junctions, or play Triple Triad.
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#6kenff6Posted 5/24/2012 10:49:44 PM
Because Rinoa is a cock tease.
#7PantheraPosted 5/25/2012 12:36:57 AM(edited)
From: Vir27 | #004
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#8RaiuPosted 5/25/2012 6:08:22 AM
crunchy612 posted...
Ultimecia popping out of nowhere isn't really surprising. *points to FF4* at least, i hope it isn't. The fact that this was the probably second FF game most have played.... Well, Ulti being like that can be bad for their tastes.


But Ultimecia didn't "pop out of nowhere". Edea tells you all about Ultimecia at the very start of Disc 3, when you learn that she was directly controlling all of Edea's actions in Discs 1 and 2, and then you spend all of disc 3 and 4 trying to deal with her directly. That's not even close to "popping out of nowhere".

She's not introduced as early as, say, Kefka or Sephiroth, but she's still named about halfway through the game (and, as I said, you actually "meet" her much earlier than that, though you're meant to think it's someone else)

It's absolutely nothing like FF4, where the final boss is literally created moments before you fight it and didn't even exist during the entire rest of the game.

The only way Ultimecia could have been a "surprise" final boss is if someone wasn't reading any of the game's dialogue, but judging by the number of people who seem to list it as a "flaw" of the game, it seems that there were actually lots of players who didn't bother to read the dialogue.
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#9crunchy612Posted 5/25/2012 6:33:48 AM
Yes. But, like FF4, was there any indication of Ulti beforehand? No. Same goes for Zemus(let's not touch Zeromus juuuuust yet). Absolutely none.

In both games, you get to fight them both as final bosses - yes, in all technicality, Zeromus = Zemus(but let's not open this can of worms :/). The similarity is that the initial bad guys - Edea and Golbez - aren't really bad, and there's someone else behind him/her. It's still quite peeving, methinks.

'course FF4 was waaaaay worse with Zeromus seemingly being a different entity, but at least it's still connected to Zemus. Unlike Necron(THE worse offender) or CoD.

Lastly, it seems i made that point (of Ulti being a GSFfN) too prominent. I say the main reason for the hate is the hater's own stupidity(thus the inability to grasp and understand TT and Junctions), and maaaaaybe Rinoa. Though i myself like Rinoa.
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#10RaiuPosted 5/25/2012 7:04:04 AM(edited)
crunchy612 posted...
Yes. But, like FF4, was there any indication of Ulti beforehand? No. Same goes for Zemus(let's not touch Zeromus juuuuust yet). Absolutely none.


Um... did you read any of the rest of my post, or just the last paragraph?

Ultimecia is introduced to you at the very beginning of Disc 3. The entirety of discs 3 and 4 is focused on getting to the future and stopping Ultimecia. The name "Ultimecia" is spoken more than fifty times during the span of those discs.

So how, exactly, is that "no indication" of Ultimecia before the final battle?

Just because the villain doesn't jump in front of the camera at the very beginning of the game and start singing a dramatic showtune about how evil they (and instead are subtle, using minions and lackeys to do their dirty work and draw attention away from them) are doesn't mean they come out of nowhere.
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