Name That Tune! 2012, May: Results

#41Dark RPG Wizard 06Posted 5/14/2012 7:31:50 AM
Terotrous posted...
Yeah, I would agree completed except I would replace 'mitigate' with 'exacerbate'.

I don't think it would as long as the scores from the contests weren't cumulative. Sure, some months you'd have no chance whatsoever, but at least there'd be a few months where you're an expert. Even if you're someone who, say, only started gaming this generation, which under the current setup means you don't have a prayer.


I'm not sure this "you" is particularly applicable to most of us. I mean, pick a console with a large library like PS2, and there's just no way that anyone will have expertise. The game is oriented toward the youtube trawlers, and it only gets worse when the theme narrows down which videos should be slowly worked through.

We're down to about 1/3 of the participants we once had from the very first Name That Tune. And I don't think genre/console themes would change that.
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#42LinkSamus3Posted 5/14/2012 8:48:59 AM
i think it could be fun if future contests didn't have cumulative scores, but if you do it that way, you'd have to not do the contests in a series like this either. If you do the contests in a series together, it only makes sense to put the scores together as well so that you have a list of the overall masters as well as the single contest winners, just as we've been doing. But whether we have stand alone contests or series like this, I can handle it either way. No circumstances will discourage me from entering, because music is my thing. That's really why I've been here since the beginning in the first place.
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#43TerotrousPosted 5/14/2012 10:44:31 AM
I'm not sure this "you" is particularly applicable to most of us. I mean, pick a console with a large library like PS2, and there's just no way that anyone will have expertise.

Clearly some of us have more expertise than others, though. A person who owns 300 PS2 games will do much better at a PS2 contest than someone who owns 10, even though 300 PS2 games is still less than one tenth of the library.

Also, it makes it a little easier to figure out where a song comes from if you think you've heard it before, at least you know what system it's from.


The game is oriented toward the youtube trawlers

This is a problem, but unfortunately there's no real way to solve it. If you give a long time limit, some no-lifers are going to brute force the entire contest (no offense to any high-scoring entrants). I don't really care, because I've long since given up hope on placing high and only enter for fun each month, but if you find this behaviour undesirable really the only answer is to make the rewards fairly trivial so it won't be worth doing.


We're down to about 1/3 of the participants we once had from the very first Name That Tune. And I don't think genre/console themes would change that.

I think anything that makes it easier will result in more entrants, since the main reason people don't enter is that they find the contests too hard.


i think it could be fun if future contests didn't have cumulative scores

I also agree with this as I feel it acts as a lockout for new people.
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#44EarthshakerPosted 5/14/2012 11:11:01 AM
I'm tempted to make up my own Name that Tune after June's is complete, if anyone's interested.

Granted, I don't have karma-throwing powers, but it's for the fun of it.

Which is the point.

Fun.
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#45DetroitDJ(Topic Creator)(Moderator)Posted 5/14/2012 11:50:19 AM

From: Terotrous | #043
some no-lifers are going to brute force the entire contest (no offense to any high-scoring entrants)


Adding 'no offense' to the beginning of something doesn't magically make it unoffensive. That's pretty rude.
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#46sktgamer_13dudePosted 5/14/2012 12:09:14 PM

From: DetroitDJ | #039
Dang it!! Copy/paste fail.


I deserve at least 500 karma for finding out that mistake.

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#47TerotrousPosted 5/14/2012 12:48:37 PM(edited)
Adding 'no offense' to the beginning of something doesn't magically make it unoffensive. That's pretty rude.

Unfortunately it is a real issue that there's really no other way to express. I wouldn't have thought people would just attempt to check every game over theme possible to find stuff but apparently they will and that affects the way the contests play out.
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#48DetroitDJ(Topic Creator)(Moderator)Posted 5/14/2012 1:07:04 PM
Right. And it should. People who try harder should do better. If it didn't play out that way, it'd be a glorified lottery.
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#49TerotrousPosted 5/14/2012 1:15:02 PM
Right. And it should. People who try harder should do better. If it didn't play out that way, it'd be a glorified lottery.

It's kind of a glorified lottery anyway. The song choices are essentially random, as is whether or not you've played the games. I think most of the issues with this contest are actually from the unwillingness to embrace the random nature of the contest.
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#50Ytterbium_70Posted 5/14/2012 1:34:37 PM
Earthshaker posted...
I'm tempted to make up my own Name that Tune after June's is complete, if anyone's interested.

Granted, I don't have karma-throwing powers, but it's for the fun of it.

Which is the point.

Fun.


I am definitely entering this.

Also, I'm not afraid to admit that I really used Youtube to help me out in the contests I entered. That being said, it all adds to the fun, since I don't own half the consoles from where the games were pulled from.

Youtube searching makes me feel something like Indiana Jones, with some knowledge already there; the rest I dig up. I actually had SimAnt 2 (reality check?) for #23 until a deep RPG search found Lufia: FoD.