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Super Saiyan God multiplier?

#1XSpidercideXPosted 3/23/2013 10:35:50 AM
Must be huge if SSJG is supposed to be on par with Bills who is stronger than Super Vegito. Super Vegito was leagues above SSJ3.

Lets say Goku is 180 million at base during Buu saga so his SSJ3 is 72 billion.

Super Vegito >>> Buuhan > Mystic Gohan (1trilion?) > SSJ3 Gotenks (640b?) > Super Buu > SSJ Gotenks (80b?) >= SSJ3 Goku (72b) >= Fat Buu >> Gotenks

SSJ3 Gotenks would have to be in the upper hundreds of billions given there is an 8x difference between his SSJ and SSJ3. That means Mystic Gohan would be around 1 trillion and Buuhan may be up to 2 trillion. Super Vegito put him to shame so lets say he is 10x stonger at 20 trillion.

If Goku is twice as strong by the time Bills comes around, that means his base is 360 million and to match 20 trillion for Super Vegito he would need a 55,555x multiplier.

What would that mean SSJG multiplier is supposed to be? 100,000x base?
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#2You__Know__WhoPosted 3/23/2013 10:42:31 AM
Pulling a lot of numbers out of nowhere, but either way we don't know.
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#3XSpidercideX(Topic Creator)Posted 3/23/2013 10:46:45 AM
The numbers aren't supposed to be accurate, its only a representation of how much stronger each character is supposed to be than the other.

You could take away the billion and just say 72, or 50 or whatever. What matters is the difference between the numbers, not the values themselves.
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#4lilORANGPosted 3/23/2013 10:50:42 AM
Well since it requires the energy of other saiyans, maybe its like a 6 way fusion
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#5XSpidercideX(Topic Creator)Posted 3/23/2013 10:55:09 AM(edited)
Lets put it this way.

We know SSJ3 Goku is 400x base.
We know SSJ Gotenks is equal or slightly stronger than that.
We know SSJ3 Gotenks is 8x SSJ Gotenks.
We can estimate Mystic Gohan was shown to be at least 1.5x stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks.
We can estimate Buhaan 1.5x Mystic Gohan.
We can estimate Super Vegito at 10x stronger than Buuhan.

so Goku x 400 x 1.2 x 8 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 10 = Super Vegito.

= Goku x 86,400 = Super Vegito
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#6You__Know__WhoPosted 3/23/2013 11:28:21 AM
lilORANG posted...
Well since it requires the energy of other saiyans, maybe its like a 6 way fusion


Possibly, but even after leaving the form he retains the power.
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#7You__Know__WhoPosted 3/23/2013 11:29:28 AM
XSpidercideX posted...
Lets put it this way.

We know SSJ3 Goku is 400x base.
We know SSJ Gotenks is equal or slightly stronger than that.
We know SSJ3 Gotenks is 8x SSJ Gotenks.
We can estimate Mystic Gohan was shown to be at least 1.5x stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks.
We can estimate Buhaan 1.5x Mystic Gohan.
We can estimate Super Vegito at 10x stronger than Buuhan.

so Goku x 400 x 1.2 x 8 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 10 = Super Vegito.

= Goku x 86,400 = Super Vegito


Nice, but to be fair Super Vegetto being 10X stronger than Buuhan is interesting. Base Vegetto is 50X weaker than Super Vegetto, so where would you place Base Vegetto?
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#8XSpidercideX(Topic Creator)Posted 3/23/2013 12:16:58 PM
You__Know__Who posted...
XSpidercideX posted...
Lets put it this way.

We know SSJ3 Goku is 400x base.
We know SSJ Gotenks is equal or slightly stronger than that.
We know SSJ3 Gotenks is 8x SSJ Gotenks.
We can estimate Mystic Gohan was shown to be at least 1.5x stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks.
We can estimate Buhaan 1.5x Mystic Gohan.
We can estimate Super Vegito at 10x stronger than Buuhan.

so Goku x 400 x 1.2 x 8 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 10 = Super Vegito.

= Goku x 86,400 = Super Vegito


Nice, but to be fair Super Vegetto being 10X stronger than Buuhan is interesting. Base Vegetto is 50X weaker than Super Vegetto, so where would you place Base Vegetto?


The thing with base Vegito is, the anime showed him and the manga did not.

In the manga Vegito immediately turned super as if being just Vegito was not enough so Vegito would be somewhere between SSJ2 and SSJ3 Gotenks like Super Buu. I'm doing my 10x based on the manga and the assumption that Vegito did not fight Buuhan.

If going by the anime, I would say Vegito was in between Mystic Gohan and Buuhan, and Super Vegito would therefore be maybe about 40x stronger than Buuhan.
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#9yakashamonianPosted 3/23/2013 12:53:08 PM
XSpidercideX posted...
You__Know__Who posted...
XSpidercideX posted...
Lets put it this way.

We know SSJ3 Goku is 400x base.
We know SSJ Gotenks is equal or slightly stronger than that.
We know SSJ3 Gotenks is 8x SSJ Gotenks.
We can estimate Mystic Gohan was shown to be at least 1.5x stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks.
We can estimate Buhaan 1.5x Mystic Gohan.
We can estimate Super Vegito at 10x stronger than Buuhan.

so Goku x 400 x 1.2 x 8 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 10 = Super Vegito.

= Goku x 86,400 = Super Vegito


Nice, but to be fair Super Vegetto being 10X stronger than Buuhan is interesting. Base Vegetto is 50X weaker than Super Vegetto, so where would you place Base Vegetto?


The thing with base Vegito is, the anime showed him and the manga did not.

In the manga Vegito immediately turned super as if being just Vegito was not enough so Vegito would be somewhere between SSJ2 and SSJ3 Gotenks like Super Buu. I'm doing my 10x based on the manga and the assumption that Vegito did not fight Buuhan.

If going by the anime, I would say Vegito was in between Mystic Gohan and Buuhan, and Super Vegito would therefore be maybe about 40x stronger than Buuhan.



That's if you believe SSJ is still a 50X multiplier. Most people believe Base gotenks to be SSJ2 tier. and he's obviously not 50x stronger than Vegeta and fat buu. or 40+x even.

for all we know Vegito may not be much stronger than buu. With the whole you only need to be 10-15% stronger than your opponent to dominate him thing. If we're to believe Base gotenks to be SSJ2 tier but his SSJ not being enough for super Buu. there's likely no more than a 4-5x increase. Which even if Vegito is chou Gohan's level. He might only be 2-3x stronger than Buu.

Buutenks is only 25-50% stronger than Gohan and look what happened there.
#10RPGMaster95Posted 3/23/2013 1:23:13 PM
The formula is (Toei x AT)/Plot

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