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Tim Duncan vs Kevin Garnett. Who's the better all-time defender?

#1Ray_AP_37Posted 2/1/2013 10:14:17 AM
Who's the better all-time defender? Kevin Garnett or Tim Duncan? - Results (147 votes)
Tim Duncan, but not by much
19.73% (29 votes)
29
Tim Duncan, by a moderate amount
19.73% (29 votes)
29
Tim Duncan, by a mile
8.84% (13 votes)
13
Kevin Garnett, but not by much
29.25% (43 votes)
43
Kevin Garnett, by a moderate amount
17.69% (26 votes)
26
Kevin Garnett, by a mile
4.76% (7 votes)
7
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#2JP_RockzPosted 2/1/2013 10:23:23 AM
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#3ScyreusPosted 2/1/2013 10:33:22 AM
Tim Duncan by a moderate amount

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01/on-off/
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/garneke01/on-off/

Career on/off numbers

Tim Duncan
Team DRtg on the court: 99.0
Team DRtg off the court 103.9
Career difference: -4.9

Kevin Garnett
Team DRtg on the court: 102
Team DRtg off the court: 105.6
Career difference: -3.6

BTW Big Ben is better than both at -5.9

Dwight Lolward is -1.1 proving he's one of the most overrated defenders ever.
#4_Floater_Posted 2/1/2013 10:35:41 AM
Scyreus posted...
Tim Duncan by a moderate amount

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01/on-off/
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/garneke01/on-off/

Career on/off numbers

Tim Duncan
Team DRtg on the court: 99.0
Team DRtg off the court 103.9
Career difference: -4.9

Kevin Garnett
Team DRtg on the court: 102
Team DRtg off the court: 105.6
Career difference: -3.6

BTW Big Ben is better than both at -5.9

Dwight Lolward is -1.1 proving he's one of the most overrated defenders ever.


This is one of the worst posts I've ever seen
#5Ray_AP_37(Topic Creator)Posted 2/1/2013 10:36:04 AM
Dwight Howard has been pretty much a one-man defense his entire career, and Garnett was such for almost his entire Timberwolves career. That's not very fair in my opinion.
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#6DJRoombaPosted 2/1/2013 10:40:28 AM
That guy essentially compared T-wolves and the Spurs of the early 2000's
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#7ScyreusPosted 2/1/2013 10:46:20 AM
It's easier to put up big +/- numbers on a poor team than a good one

If anything Duncan's numbers are more impressive by the fact that he's had great supporting casts and coaching because their defense still improves by a LOT when he's on the court.
#8DJRoombaPosted 2/1/2013 10:51:37 AM
From: Scyreus | #007
It's easier to put up big +/- numbers on a poor team than a good one

If anything Duncan's numbers are more impressive by the fact that he's had great supporting casts and coaching because their defense still improves by a LOT when he's on the court.



Not if you have to carry your team on both ends for big minutes every game the entire season.
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#9Ray_AP_37(Topic Creator)Posted 2/1/2013 10:53:16 AM
Scyreus posted...
It's easier to put up big +/- numbers on a poor team than a good one

If anything Duncan's numbers are more impressive by the fact that he's had great supporting casts and coaching because their defense still improves by a LOT when he's on the court.


In 2003, the Spurs' defensive efficiency was 99.7. In 2004, it was 94.1. But yet, Duncan's +/- in those years are 5.1 and 5.4 respectively.

Didn't you imply that his +/- should be much higher when his team was significantly worse defensively?
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#10_Floater_Posted 2/1/2013 10:54:33 AM
Scyreus posted...
It's easier to put up big +/- numbers on a poor team than a good one

If anything Duncan's numbers are more impressive by the fact that he's had great supporting casts and coaching because their defense still improves by a LOT when he's on the court.


+/- numbers are useless. Did you watch Duncan and Garnett play in their primes extensively?