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Iron Fist Vs Sheer Force!!!

#1All-icePosted 8/19/2013 12:29:00 PM
I'm making a Conkeldurr and I was wondering which ability would be better with this move set I have

Mach Punch
Drain Punch
Ice Punch
Thunder Punch

Iron Fist shouts out to me, but Sheer force helps me OHKO MultiScale Dragonite, Gliscor, and Garchomps with Ice punch.

It also OHKO Politoads, Jellicents(After SR) Tentacruel, and Suicunes(After SR) with Thunder Punch.

I was wondering if Iron Fist still guarantees those kills or will it be weaker?
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#2DrTinglePosted 8/19/2013 12:45:20 PM
Iron Fist raises the power of punch moves by 20%. Sheer Force increases the power of any move that has a possible side effect by 30%, but takes away that effect. With Iron Fist, you can still have a chance to paralyze with T-Punch, and Freeze with Ice Punch, but it's slightly weaker.
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#3shadowreaper7Posted 8/20/2013 2:29:33 AM
DrTingle posted...
Iron Fist raises the power of punch moves by 20%. Sheer Force increases the power of any move that has a possible side effect by 30%, but takes away that effect. With Iron Fist, you can still have a chance to paralyze with T-Punch, and Freeze with Ice Punch, but it's slightly weaker.


And of course for the most part on something with an attack stat as high as Derp's. You can always allow the trade off on power between Sheer Force and Iron fist. Particularly because of Mach punch having a nice boost by Iron fist and having +1 priority. Its always nice.

Iron fist is the better ability.
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#4linkhawkinsPosted 8/20/2013 4:13:23 AM
I am going to say Sheer Force because with Life Orb all your attacks will be powered up but Thunder and Ice Punch will be stronger without recoil.
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#5DrTinglePosted 8/20/2013 6:10:13 AM
From: shadowreaper7 | #003
And of course for the most part on something with an attack stat as high as Derp's. You can always allow the trade off on power between Sheer Force and Iron fist. Particularly because of Mach punch having a nice boost by Iron fist and having +1 priority. Its always nice.

Iron fist is the better ability.


It depends on which of the moves that Conk is mostly going to use. TC says that his elemental punches are going to be used a lot to keep opponents checked, so in that case, I think sheer force would be superior.
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#6shadowreaper7Posted 8/20/2013 8:00:19 AM
DrTingle posted...
From: shadowreaper7 | #003
And of course for the most part on something with an attack stat as high as Derp's. You can always allow the trade off on power between Sheer Force and Iron fist. Particularly because of Mach punch having a nice boost by Iron fist and having +1 priority. Its always nice.

Iron fist is the better ability.


It depends on which of the moves that Conk is mostly going to use. TC says that his elemental punches are going to be used a lot to keep opponents checked, so in that case, I think sheer force would be superior.


If i remember rightly, doesn't most of what Conkeldurr hit with those punches go down simply with Iron fist boost? Granted you can never predict everything and there will be a tonne my brain is not letting me think of which i may forget which conkeldurr can't KO/2HKO unless it has Sheer Force. But otherwise...

eh... either abilities a good shout really.

God i'm so lazy today to even bother look this up :L
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#7MrBananaMan20Posted 8/21/2013 9:31:23 AM
If you use a life orb on it, sheer force would be better because it removes LO recoil but not the boost in power.
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#8DrTinglePosted 8/21/2013 9:33:18 AM
I like your sig Bananaman. Are you also in the BROTRRhood?
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