software engineer vs programmer

#11ISDcaptain01(Topic Creator)Posted 1/29/2012 6:25:43 PM
^ if u dont want to discuss in my thread than dont post. Im not trolling as I am concerned about a degree I put 4+ years of my life in and not even considered a my title is
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#12Skel1Posted 1/30/2012 8:38:28 AM
ISDcaptain01 posted...
But what I find unfair is that students who major in Software Engineering or have concentration in it within their CS degree cannot even go for a PE license unlike other engineers. The mean reason is that software is not prone to critical failure, unlike bridges or cars. Whats ur take?

Software engineers are programmers, not engineers.
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#13Skel1Posted 1/30/2012 8:39:59 AM
ISDcaptain01 posted...
^ if u dont want to discuss in my thread than dont post. Im not trolling as I am concerned about a degree I put 4+ years of my life in and not even considered a my title is

OOoooooh it all makes sense now!!! You just want to hear someone say you're special because your degree has "engineer" in it, and that you're somehow better than just a normal "programmer". Thank you for clearing that up for us Mr. Trollolol.
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#14BewmHedshotPosted 1/30/2012 8:36:56 PM
The title varies by company.

Some states have some laws that regulate what an engineer is.

In general 'software engineering' is the entire field of going from meetings with users to functional software using formal methodology, which obviously includes some jobs that are not titled 'software engineers'.
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#15ReconditePhreakPosted 1/30/2012 10:40:04 PM
No states have laws that regulate what an engineer is.

Some states have laws that regulate what requirements you need to meet in order to legally advertise yourself to the general public as an engineer w/i specific fields.

There's a distinction there, and that distinction is why software engineers can legally call themselves software engineers. There are no laws telling them they can't.

Furthermore, the word engineer, as it pertains to legalities, is not the same word as it pertains to the word in common vernacular.
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#16flussencePosted 1/31/2012 10:28:53 AM
Sounds like you should've spent that 4 years getting a diploma in English instead.
#17CC RicersPosted 1/31/2012 1:03:19 PM
You cannot obtain a license to become a programmer as you can to be a doctor or lawyer, so the job titles are pretty much moot. I worked full time as an "associate software engineer" and still don't know what that really means.

Besides, ask any aeroespace engineer or civil engineer about us and they'll tell you that we're not "real" engineers.
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