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#21bsballa09Posted 7/2/2011 3:59:29 PM(edited)
To pop another hole in your theory, there wasn't even alot of knowledge that Israel even had nuclear weapons until the 80s.

False. France and Britian were secretly helping Israel build nuclear weapons, and the US knew full well of it. Even the Soviet Union knew about it, which means the Arabs knew about it. That's why the Dimona reactor was a very important target during the wars.
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#22RRtexasranger13Posted 7/2/2011 5:11:54 PM
False. CIA reports indicated that Israel could make nuclear weapons in only a few weeks in early 67, and other sources say Israel had at least 2 crude nuclear weapons during the war.


I'm sorry, but I'm gonna go with the official story looking back in history, not CIA reports from 1967 which goes against numerous other reports.

False. France and Britian were secretly helping Israel build nuclear weapons, and the US knew full well of it. Even the Soviet Union knew about it, which means the Arabs knew about it. That's why the Dimona reactor was a very important target during the wars.


The US wasn't fully convinced Israel had nukes until the 70s, which means neither did the Arabs. Just because there were rumors and reports doesn't mean that they were necessarily true or were believed by everybody.

Israel aside, you're assertion that nuclear weapons aren't a deterrent doesn't hold up when you look at everything at once. WW3 never started because of nuclear weapons, there has been a major conflict between India and Pakistan (small skirmish in 1999 doesn't count) since they developed their nuclear weapons, North Korea can bomb a South Korean island and not get attacked, and you can even put Israel back into the equation and say that they haven't been attacked by another Arab country since 1973 (2nd Lebanon war doesn't count, deterrents can't counter that kind of stuff).

So until you disprove all of those accounts, your theory is still wrong, and the census, including the academia consensus, disagrees with you.
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#23bsballa09Posted 7/2/2011 5:20:25 PM
I'm sorry, but I'm gonna go with the official story looking back in history, not CIA reports from 1967 which goes against numerous other reports.

Nice refutation.

The US wasn't fully convinced Israel had nukes until the 70s, which means neither did the Arabs. Just because there were rumors and reports doesn't mean that they were necessarily true or were believed by everybody.

Sorry, but no. The US completely knew they had nuclear weapons.

So until you disprove all of those accounts, your theory is still wrong, and the census, including the academia consensus, disagrees with you.

I already did. I'll repost it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War
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#24gamerfreak121Posted 7/3/2011 3:04:22 AM
The Arab forces didn't know if Israel possessed or could possess nuclear weapons during those two wars; if they did know, do you think they would have still engaged Israel?
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#25flacodiabloPosted 7/6/2011 12:39:46 PM
I like how North Korea keeps getting ignored here just like it was on the international stage- because it has actual nukes.
#26god_of_toastPosted 7/7/2011 2:13:18 AM
bsballa09 posted...
I'm sorry, but I'm gonna go with the official story looking back in history, not CIA reports from 1967 which goes against numerous other reports.

Nice refutation.

The US wasn't fully convinced Israel had nukes until the 70s, which means neither did the Arabs. Just because there were rumors and reports doesn't mean that they were necessarily true or were believed by everybody.

Sorry, but no. The US completely knew they had nuclear weapons.

So until you disprove all of those accounts, your theory is still wrong, and the census, including the academia consensus, disagrees with you.

I already did. I'll repost it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War


/facepalm

What a strong and well considered arguement you've put forward ...

Gosh I do hope you go to university one day and learn how to convey an arguement (hint its not posting asinine wikipedia articles and expecting everyone to follow your (non-existent) string of logic).
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