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THIS JUST IN: Webster firefighter killer got his guns from some idiot co-ed.

#1Barenziah Boy ToyPosted 3/18/2013 4:18:23 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/woman-pleads-guilty-n-y-christmas-eve-firefighter-shootings-article-1.1291934

Rochester woman who acted as straw buyer of guns used by William Spengler in Christmas Eve shooting in Webster pleads not guilty. Dawn Nguyen was charged with lying on a form when she bought a rifle and shotgun and then transferring the weapons to felon William Spengler, who ambushed firefighters at his burning home in Webster, N.Y.

ROCHESTER A New York college student has pleaded not guilty to charges she bought guns for a neighbor who later ambushed firefighters at his burning home Christmas Eve. Dawn Nguyen was arraigned Monday on a three-count indictment in federal court in Rochester. The 24-year-old from the suburb of Greece was charged last week with lying on a form when she bought a rifle and shotgun, transferring the guns to felon William Spengler Jr., and possessing guns while using marijuana.

Spengler killed himself after fatally shooting two firefighters and wounding two others and a police officer in the town of Webster. Nguyen said nothing as she left court. But her lawyer, Matthew Parrinello, says she will fight the charges.Nguyen also faces a state charge of falsifying a business record.



Lesson to be learned: We can't know who a responsible gun owner is unless until they've proven themselves to be worthy, responsible citizens. Gun ownership is more importantly, a vital RESPONSIBILITY.

These type of occurrences are exactly why we need to step up the enforcement of our gun regulations AND help change the culture of careless, irresponsible gun 'ownership.'
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#2ClutchPosted 3/18/2013 4:24:28 PM
Isn't the lesson that people will find ways to circumvent gun controls?
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#3Barenziah Boy Toy(Topic Creator)Posted 3/18/2013 4:25:48 PM
Isn't the lesson that people will find ways to circumvent gun controls?
And giving idiots like Dawn Nguyen the right to own guns isn't making it easier to deal with the issue.
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#4god_of_toastPosted 3/18/2013 4:27:38 PM
Clutch posted...
Isn't the lesson that people will find ways to circumvent gun controls?


Yep it sure is.

If only there wasnt any gun control; the felon wouldnt even have had to involve this student in his cause. He could have just picked his own gun up from the shop and then shot up some firefighters.
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#5ClutchPosted 3/18/2013 4:29:07 PM
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Isn't the lesson that people will find ways to circumvent gun controls?
And giving idiots like Dawn Nguyen the right to own guns isn't making it easier to deal with the issue.
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She fraudulently obtained the guns. She didn't have the right to do what she did.
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#6TheRealJiraiyaPosted 3/18/2013 4:29:58 PM
Clutch posted...
Isn't the lesson that people will find ways to circumvent gun controls?


Im genuinely wondering whether you also agree with pro-choice arguments of this nature
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#7Barenziah Boy Toy(Topic Creator)Posted 3/18/2013 4:31:12 PM
She fraudulently obtained the guns. She didn't have the right to do what she did.
She had the right to TRY to obtain them. It's up to us as a society to determine if she is responsible enough to use that right.
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#8TheRealJiraiyaPosted 3/18/2013 4:32:26 PM
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
She fraudulently obtained the guns. She didn't have the right to do what she did.
She had the right to TRY to obtain them. It's up to us as a society to determine if she is responsible enough to use that right.
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Is this a joke post
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#9Barenziah Boy Toy(Topic Creator)Posted 3/18/2013 4:33:55 PM
Is this a joke post
Do you not understand what the purpose of a license is?
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#10Le_CorbeauPosted 3/18/2013 4:34:14 PM
TheRealJiraiya posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
She fraudulently obtained the guns. She didn't have the right to do what she did.
She had the right to TRY to obtain them. It's up to us as a society to determine if she is responsible enough to use that right.


Is this a joke post

No, quite a few anti-gunners think that they should have the right to decide who is armed (IOW, no one) and who isn't (IOW, everyone).
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