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Should the federal government even have laws regarding marriage?

#41SilviiroPosted 3/31/2013 9:51:29 AM
Man and woman get married.
Man and woman have child.
Man and woman get divorced.
Who gets the child if man and wife can't decide between themselves?
Bam, a parental rights case inseparable from marriage.


Man and woman have child.
Man and woman do not want to raise child together.
Who gets the child if father and mother can't decide between themselves?

It can be completely separated from marriage without changing anything.
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#42LuigisBroPosted 3/31/2013 9:57:59 AM
conservatives have lost the war on marriage, so now they wanna take the ball home when it doesn't even belong to them, what a bunch of crybabies
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#43AceVanquishPosted 3/31/2013 10:58:28 AM
Evil Genius 9 posted...
OK people, if you haven't gotten it by now, this should be your cue to start ignoring Sniper.

How is this a bad topic? Stop being a ****poster.
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#44ryan0991Posted 3/31/2013 11:20:44 AM(edited)
From: Magus1947 | #039
Man and woman get married.
Man and woman have child.
Man and woman get divorced.
Who gets the child if man and wife can't decide between themselves?
Bam, a parental rights case inseparable from marriage.

I think what he meant was that parental rights never become relevant for some married couples because some people never bother having children.

Man and woman have child.
Man and woman do not want to raise child together.
Who gets the child if father and mother can't decide between themselves?

It can be completely separated from marriage without changing anything.

Or this.
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#45ryan0991Posted 3/31/2013 11:18:48 AM
From: AceVanquish | #043
How is this a bad topic?

His basic premise was wrong. This was pointed out countless times. I'm not sure why this is difficult for you to understand. I will quote it below in case you missed it.

From: Sniper_Brosef | #001
marriage is a religious concept and act

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#46thegreatsquarePosted 3/31/2013 12:05:27 PM
ryan0991 posted...
From: AceVanquish | #043
How is this a bad topic?

His basic premise was wrong. This was pointed out countless times. I'm not sure why this is difficult for you to understand. I will quote it below in case you missed it.

From: Sniper_Brosef | #001
marriage is a religious concept and act


Marriage is one of the 7 sacraments of Catholicism. Even if you wish to make a differentiation between the civil marriage and the religious act sanctifying vows, all the protest by religious conservatives should tell you that they see the process of civil marriage as an extension of the religious ceremony. When religious conservatives claim their religious rights are under attack by changing the definition of marriage, they are saying they see the government practice of civil marriage as the defacto enforcement of their religious principles by government mandate.
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#47ryan0991Posted 3/31/2013 1:41:40 PM
From: thegreatsquare | #046
Marriage is one of the 7 sacraments of Catholicism. Even if you wish to make a differentiation between the civil marriage and the religious act sanctifying vows, all the protest by religious conservatives should tell you that they see the process of civil marriage as an extension of the religious ceremony. When religious conservatives claim their religious rights are under attack by changing the definition of marriage, they are saying they see the government practice of civil marriage as the defacto enforcement of their religious principles by government mandate.

I understand how they think. They're still wrong though.
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#48Mr_Red_HerringPosted 3/31/2013 1:56:19 PM
We should be able to marry as many different people as we want (polyandry), if you disagree then you are a bigot.
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#49ryan0991Posted 3/31/2013 1:59:46 PM
From: Mr_Red_Herring | #048
We should be able to marry as many different people as we want (polyandry), if you disagree then you are a bigot.

It's cute when people like this think they're being clever.
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#50yarsPosted 3/31/2013 2:04:23 PM
marriage predates recorded history, so anyone claiming it was or wasn't originally a religious institution is talking out of his ass.
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