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Kansas GOP: Rape exceptions for abortions are gotcha moments!!!

#1NoName999Posted 4/3/2013 6:22:02 PM
The Kansas legislature is advancing an omnibus abortion bill that would, among other things, define life as beginning at conception in the state constitution and place unnecessary restrictions on abortion providers in the state. HB 2253 has already passed the House, and looks poised to gain enough support to sail through the Senate — but only after Republicans rejected several key amendments to soften the measure, including a provision to add exceptions for rape and incest to the state’s existing abortion restrictions. Top Republicans decried those provisions as “little gotcha amendments.”

Senators discussed the bill for more than two hours on Monday. There were several proposed amendments up for debate — a rape and incest exception, a provision ensuring that women won’t be prosecuted for using birth control even if the state officially redefines life with a “personhood” amendment, and a measure to remove HB 2253′s requirement that doctors tell women about a scientifically disputed link between abortion and breast cancer. All of them were rejected.

“These amendments are little gotcha amendments,” Senate Majority Leader Terry Bruce (R) said during the floor debate. “I’m getting a little irritated at it.”

State Sen. Mary Pilcher-Cook (R) explained she opposed the rape and incest exception because it would apply not just to HB 2253, but also to the existing abortion laws in Kansas. That means it would extend an exception in the cases of rape and incest to current state restrictions banning most abortions after 22 weeks, preventing private health insurance from covering abortion services, and requiring doctors to obtain parental consent before performing an abortion for a minor. “This language would completely undo 10 to 20 years of abortion legislation,” Pilcher-Cook said.

In fact, such an amendment wouldn’t “undo” state-level abortion restrictions at all. Exceptions in the cases of rape, incest, and preserving the life of the woman are still extremely narrow, and don’t change the fact that restrictions on reproductive care are still imposed on the majority of women. Those small exemptions have become somewhat of a national standard. The federal government, 32 states, and the District of Columbia all offer exceptions in the cases of life endangerment, rape, or incest in their bans on public funding for abortion. Americans also overwhelmingly support abortion access for victims of rape and incest.

But for Kansas Republicans, it’s too politically contentious to ensure, for instance, that a minor who has been sexually abused by a family member doesn’t have to seek parental consent to terminate a resulting pregnancy. “This is political hijinks,” Pilcher-Cook said. “We should be focused on the bill instead of trying to make political points.”


http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04/02/1807991/kansas-rape-exceptions-gotcha/

Yeah the woman was TOTALLY trying to get an abortion through rape, basically. :|

What war on women?
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#2OrcaPosted 4/3/2013 6:24:17 PM
This is crying for a poor taste Lucky Ducky comic.
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#3fudrickPosted 4/3/2013 6:25:18 PM
I've never really understood how rape provisions in anti-abortion laws would even work. How often are rapists convicted within a few months of the incident?
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#4mizukage2Posted 4/3/2013 6:31:53 PM
So, I am curious, anyone think that in the future people will call women who are against women's rights a 'Mary Pilcher'?
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#5xeionpPosted 4/3/2013 6:32:36 PM
agree with gotcha moments, disagree with gotcha amendments/ Topic title is very misleading
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#6RedcountPosted 4/3/2013 7:27:06 PM
I, too, don't know how they'd work, but I understand what they mean by "gotcha" moments, in this context.

If the argument is that life begins at conception, an exception that says, "it's okay to end the life of an unborn child if they were conceived by rape" is kind of a moment where abortion proponants can say, "gotcha! Hypocrisy exposed, you're okay with killing babies too!"

And it's a completely legitimate criticism, as such an exemption is hypocritical, and does a disservice to the anti-abortion movement.

Good on legislators for not leaving loopholes and exceptions, and giving children a right to life - no matter what their biological fathers may have done.
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#7YouAreCrumbsPosted 4/3/2013 7:30:28 PM
Redcount posted...
I, too, don't know how they'd work, but I understand what they mean by "gotcha" moments, in this context.

If the argument is that life begins at conception, an exception that says, "it's okay to end the life of an unborn child if they were conceived by rape" is kind of a moment where abortion proponants can say, "gotcha! Hypocrisy exposed, you're okay with killing babies too!"

And it's a completely legitimate criticism, as such an exemption is hypocritical, and does a disservice to the anti-abortion movement.

Good on legislators for not leaving loopholes and exceptions, and giving children a right to life - no matter what their biological fathers may have done.


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#8GoldicePosted 4/3/2013 7:40:39 PM
It's fun.

A fetus's right to life supercedes a women's right of happiness and comfort.

That's essentially what you're saying if a woman gets raped and becomes pregnant.
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#9RufusNKenRSTierPosted 4/3/2013 7:40:59 PM
YouAreCrumbs posted...


"You've given us a choice between forcing something unbelievably terrible on an already traumatized woman and compromising our unrealistic, impractical, and damaging views. Not fair!"


That.
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#10JabrahamPosted 4/3/2013 7:45:42 PM
Not to mention that personhood at conception leads to difficult questions about chimeras, identical twins, conjoined twins, and miscarriages. Very few people who argue for personhood at conception ever address those issues.
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