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the boston bombings reveal how lame the media is

#11Anti_PhiIosophy(Topic Creator)Posted 4/20/2013 9:30:25 PM(edited)
lasthero posted...

cart before the horse mate, why do people care about petty celebrit drama or whatever? because the media hypes it up.

media influences what people care about VERY strongly, not vice versa.


The media is just like any other business, it's supply and demand. If people didn't care about that stuff, the media would change to what they want. That's the way entertainment goes.


and just like any other business, a huge part of what they do is marketing to create demand for exactly what they're selling
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#12lastheroPosted 4/20/2013 9:40:21 PM
Anti_PhiIosophy posted...
lasthero posted...

cart before the horse mate, why do people care about petty celebrit drama or whatever? because the media hypes it up.

media influences what people care about VERY strongly, not vice versa.


The media is just like any other business, it's supply and demand. If people didn't care about that stuff, the media would change to what they want. That's the way entertainment goes.


and just like any other business, a huge part of what they do is marketing to create demand for exactly what they're selling


And like any good business, there's an interest for what they're selling in the first place.
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#13Anti_PhiIosophy(Topic Creator)Posted 4/20/2013 9:42:45 PM
lasthero posted...
Anti_PhiIosophy posted...
lasthero posted...

cart before the horse mate, why do people care about petty celebrit drama or whatever? because the media hypes it up.

media influences what people care about VERY strongly, not vice versa.


The media is just like any other business, it's supply and demand. If people didn't care about that stuff, the media would change to what they want. That's the way entertainment goes.


and just like any other business, a huge part of what they do is marketing to create demand for exactly what they're selling


And like any good business, there's an interest for what they're selling in the first place.


certainly, news, and everything from jesus in toast to obama's drones counts as news.
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#14RufusNKenRSTierPosted 4/20/2013 9:46:35 PM
Because it's crucial to their flawed ideals, communists desperately cling to the idea that it is the almighty social forces that shape us, and we are just little leaves in the wind.
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#15GodnorgoshPosted 4/20/2013 10:03:49 PM(edited)
RufusNKenRSTier posted...
Because it's crucial to their flawed ideals, communists desperately cling to the idea that it is the almighty social forces that shape us, and we are just little leaves in the wind.


Posts that scream spoon-fed political ideology (like this one) don't make our case any less tenable.
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#16VyykPosted 4/21/2013 3:55:38 AM
lasthero posted...
Anti_PhiIosophy posted...
lasthero posted...

cart before the horse mate, why do people care about petty celebrit drama or whatever? because the media hypes it up.

media influences what people care about VERY strongly, not vice versa.


The media is just like any other business, it's supply and demand. If people didn't care about that stuff, the media would change to what they want. That's the way entertainment goes.


and just like any other business, a huge part of what they do is marketing to create demand for exactly what they're selling


And like any good business, there's an interest for what they're selling in the first place.


For a Marxist, you're not taking a very dialectical approach. The media influences AND is influenced by the audience. To suggest otherwise is to buy into exactly what Redcount thinks you believe--- that the media is apart of a conspiracy with a capitalist agenda.

Sadly, lots of "Marxists" do have that confused idea.
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#17sith_acolyte15Posted 4/21/2013 4:20:56 AM
It took the bombings in Boston for people to figure out what is wrong with news media today? Hasn't it been pretty common knowledge for several years now?
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#18Legends KujaPosted 4/21/2013 4:27:13 AM
From: Redcount | #002
See, the problem with communist theory, much like anti-Semitism, is it presupposes that there is a vast global conspiracy by a very small minority of the population, and that this minority is sublimely capable of crafting every event to its whim and benefit.

Rather than assuming that a lot of people are incompetent at doing good, it surmises that there is an elite few who are supremely capable of carrying out their evil machinations.

So in other words, TC cannot into Hanlon's Razor.
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#19lastheroPosted 4/21/2013 4:36:59 AM
Vyyk posted...
lasthero posted...
Anti_PhiIosophy posted...
lasthero posted...

cart before the horse mate, why do people care about petty celebrit drama or whatever? because the media hypes it up.

media influences what people care about VERY strongly, not vice versa.


The media is just like any other business, it's supply and demand. If people didn't care about that stuff, the media would change to what they want. That's the way entertainment goes.


and just like any other business, a huge part of what they do is marketing to create demand for exactly what they're selling


And like any good business, there's an interest for what they're selling in the first place.


For a Marxist, you're not taking a very dialectical approach. The media influences AND is influenced by the audience. To suggest otherwise is to buy into exactly what Redcount thinks you believe--- that the media is apart of a conspiracy with a capitalist agenda.

Sadly, lots of "Marxists" do have that confused idea.


Who the hell said I was a Marxist?
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#20atmasabrPosted 4/21/2013 9:17:08 AM(edited)
Anti_PhiIosophy posted...
The media 'failed' in two major ways, as I see it right now:

1. It helped create and actively participated in the racist witch-hunt mentality against Muslims, Arabs, people with dark skin, and anyone from the Middle East. The New York Post was particularly noxious on this, but the entire range of media sources fell in line on this. The whole phenomena is particularly exposed, since the killers turned out to be white, maybe even literally Caucasian, from Chechnya, not the Middle East


Actually, the Chechen separatists are Muslim and have links to al-Qaida.

2. It refused to make the obvious connections between the bombings in Boston, the drone attacks of Obama, and the plant explosion in Texas. It helped enforce the standard paradigm that says that these killings are the most horrible thing ever and that everyone must focus every ounce of their being on them, while Obama's murders and the Texas killings are business and usual and no one should be outraged about them or even pay any attention to them.

Actually, if there is any connection between the drone attacks of Obama and any terrorist incident in the United States, then almost by definition that connection is MUSLIM TERRORISM.

Next time you make a topic, avoid the internal inconsistencies. Topic over.
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