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FBI Had Contact With Tamerlan Tsarnaev

#1swedish svenPosted 4/21/2013 12:45:12 AM(edited)
http://rt.com/news/fbi-tsarnaev-foreign-request-150/

http://rt.com/usa/tsarnaev-brothers-parents-innocent-124/

So according to the FBI themselves an unnamed state (Russia) asked them to investigate Tamerlan for extremist connections. They did, found nothing, and that was that.

According to the brothers' parents the FBI was regularly monitoring Tamerlan for years and they feel the brothers were set up.

Now I don't believe that this was all some kind of government-run false flag operation and I think that stating they were being observed for four or five years is probably an exaggeration. But I don't believe the FBI looked into this once and then left it at that either.

My belief since the start was that this was going to turn out to be one of those FBI terrorism stings where they string a guy along for a while, give him money, weapons, etc. until he's close to being ready to act and then bust him; "FBI foils FBI plot, says FBI" and all that except that in this case it would've backfired and in the end they wound up creating their own terrorist.

IMO that's looking more and more likely as what will eventually come out: an attempted sting operation gone wrong. That doesn't mean there was some sinister plot by the FBI and the government to kill Americans for _________ (take your guns or something), rahther that arrogance and incompetence came back to bite the FBI in the ass much like the ATF and Operation Fast and Furious.
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#2B4TT3RYPosted 4/21/2013 2:19:22 AM
Source something other than Russia Today and I'll give this topic another look.
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#3sfcalimariPosted 4/21/2013 2:45:07 AM(edited)
moar liek PutinToday

It is true though that the government had contact with them. I'd like to know more and I'm not going to get my info from PutinToday.

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#4KenZoePosted 4/21/2013 3:06:48 AM
Danish media is reporting this too, citing that the FBIs inquiry into the older brother was the reason that he was denied statehood.
Let me see if I can find an English cite.
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#5KenZoePosted 4/21/2013 3:30:47 AM(edited)
http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/2011-request-for-information-on-tamerlan-tsarnaev-from-foreign-government
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/21/boston-marathon-bombings-fbi-tsarnaev

Couldn't find a reliable English site for the cite about this inquiry into Tamerlan to be the reason that he was denied citizenship though.
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#6RRtexasranger13Posted 4/21/2013 4:35:40 AM
My belief since the start was that this was going to turn out to be one of those FBI terrorism stings where they string a guy along for a while, give him money, weapons, etc. until he's close to being ready to act and then bust him; "FBI foils FBI plot, says FBI" and all that except that in this case it would've backfired and in the end they wound up creating their own terrorist.

1) The FBI never gives people actual weapons. They give them fakes.

2) If the FBI WAS following him for years and was responsible for the plot...wouldn't that mean they would know instantly who did this? Wouldn't they be like "Hmm....this is probably the guy we persuaded to plant bombs in Boston . Let's check them with the pictures we have...yup, it's a match." *Arrest made by Tuesday*

3) All reputable sources I've read said that the FBI investigated him in 2011 out of the request of the Russian government, but found nothing and the Russian government never followed up on the investigation, so the case was closed. I haven't seen anything that suggests the FBI has been keeping tabs on him for the past two years.
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#7framewreckPosted 4/21/2013 5:55:34 AM
It would have been nice if the security at the marathon was possibly notified about these two guys. Heck, why not even follow them around a little. It's a public place.
#8shaolin11Posted 4/21/2013 7:03:44 AM
This is like an episode of the wire. **** rolls downhill
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#9paulo_yamatoPosted 4/21/2013 8:27:21 AM
B4TT3RY posted...
Source something other than Russia Today and I'll give this topic another look.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/2013/04/20/fbi-was-warned-years-ago-alleged-bomber-radical-shift/mprN4HgqqUcYoxlgrWPcOP/story.html

Russian authorities warned...

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#10B4TT3RYPosted 4/21/2013 2:09:01 PM
Glad we've started getting legitimate sources in here instead of PutinToday.

Especially when the TC draws a connection between the story and the conspiracies about being set up. Which is totally something RT would lead it's anti-us base to think.
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