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Whelp, its a felony to get same-sex married in Indiana now.

#1Slim_CTASPosted 7/10/2013 4:01:11 PM(edited)
Its almost like I warned you all about this and was told "lol not a serious poster" a pile of times (http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/261-politics/66571441)

While it was never legal to get gay married in Indiana to begin with, it was hardly a felony. Essentially their marriage license application forms don't allow any selections other than 1 man and 1 woman, so if you were gay, and attempted to trick the system into letting you get married by saying one of you was the other gender, it was previously just a very minor administrative fine if not just a forfeiture of the license fee.

But now, lying as such on a license application about your gender is a felony. This was of course deliberately brought back now in order to create masked but severe punishment for even considering trying to game the system into allowing your "life of sin". It even goes as far as to imprison and fine anyone you convince to marry you should you succeed in getting your license through in the first place.

This is barely a few drops before the flood comes, lads and lasses. But hey, as I outlined in that thread, you asked for it.

Here's the story: http://www.wthitv.com/dpp/news/indiana/same-sex-marriage-felony-charge

Here's a nicely biased take on it from a source the people I'm directing this at would likely trust: http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/indiana-makes-same-sex-felony

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#2OrcaPosted 7/10/2013 4:03:40 PM
This is good news for homosexuals. Now they can not get married and wait for the tide of public opinion to change. Maybe we can improve things for minorities and ban interracial marriage next.
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#3NoName999Posted 7/10/2013 4:04:42 PM
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/261-politics/66677341
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#4Slim_CTAS(Topic Creator)Posted 7/10/2013 4:09:23 PM(edited)
From: NoName999 | #003
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/261-politics/66677341

I saw that. My angle is entirely different and required a new thread. Additionally, one thread that wasn't even on the first page anymore hardly constitutes grounds for "lol bro we're already talking about this bro just post in this thread bro".

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#5atmasabrPosted 7/10/2013 4:16:21 PM
I don't see why marriage fraud should not be considered a felony. Marriage is so important to gays that it is not hard to imagine that it might be equally, or even more important to the community at-large.
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#6kozlo100Posted 7/10/2013 4:16:50 PM
Technically, it's making it a felony to falsify information on a marriage licence. That's not the same thing as making it a felony to get a same sex marriage.

I have to wonder though, were any gay folks even trying to 'game the system' in this manor? It strikes me as unbelievably unlikely to accomplish anything.

In any case, six months to three years jail time does seem excessive for lying on a form, and with a specific reference to the same sex marriages prohibition, the intent is pretty clear. Still, I don't see anything unconstitutional in there. Best off attacking the prohibition itself.
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#7Slim_CTAS(Topic Creator)Posted 7/10/2013 4:19:41 PM(edited)
From: kozlo100 | #006
Technically, it's making it a felony to falsify information on a marriage licence. That's not the same thing as making it a felony to get a same sex marriage.

I have to wonder though, were any gay folks even trying to 'game the system' in this manor? It strikes me as unbelievably unlikely to accomplish anything.

In any case, six months to three years jail time does seem excessive for lying on a form, and with a specific reference to the same sex marriages prohibition, the intent is pretty clear. Still, I don't see anything unconstitutional in there. Best off attacking the prohibition itself.

Yes whoever the legislator was that realized what a great angle this was to retaliate with while maintaining plausible deniability was a pretty sharp chap, for good or ill.

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#8kozlo100Posted 7/10/2013 4:23:12 PM(edited)
Other class D felonies apparently include dealing more than 30 grams of pot while having prior convictions, the second instance of drunk driving in five years, and breaking and entering. I'd like to hear the author justify falsifying a marriage licence being equivalent to those crimes.
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#9atmasabrPosted 7/10/2013 4:27:11 PM(edited)
kozlo100 posted...
Other class D felonies apparently include dealing more than 30 grams of pot while having prior convictions, the second instance of drunk driving in five years, and breaking and entering. I'd like to hear the author justify falsifying a marriage licence being equivalent to those crimes.


I think the comparison speaks for itself. Legit.
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#10MinorinNightPosted 7/10/2013 4:28:19 PM
kozlo100 posted...
Other class D felonies apparently include dealing more than 30 grams of pot while having prior convictions, the second instance of drunk driving in five years, and breaking and entering. I'd like to hear the author justify falsifying a marriage licence being equivalent to those crimes.


Obviously they're just breaking and entering into somebodies heart.
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