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So how's socialism working out for France?

#11JIC XPosted 7/18/2013 12:30:24 PM
Oh, and while I barely know anything about France of the French economy, it seems to me that the big problem there is the low retirement age (well, that and the fact that the difficulty of firing employees there has led to a corresponding unwillingness to hire).

The ratio of workers to pensioners isn't good, nor is it moving in the direction of goodness.
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#12IvynnPosted 7/18/2013 12:39:59 PM
BvWJpEq5y posted...
Ivynn posted...
Sir Will posted...
Northern European countries are doing pretty well thank you.


This. It's a French problem, not a socialism problem.


Really? How's Spain doing? Greece?


They aren't socialist. Not completely.
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#13Irvy_and_SelphyPosted 7/18/2013 12:58:10 PM
What about Sweden too? And Norway and Swiss? Oh, wait, that's right, they're all doing awesome! :p Even Canada, much more ''socialist'' than the U.S., is doing better than the U.S. economically.

Just saying, I guess the point is ''socialism'' work just as well/bad as capitalist. Some country (like France) do bad with ''socialism'', while the U.S. do bad with capitalist. The difference being, one system, the mixed economy one, show more concern for its poor and middle-class citizens.
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#14Valnor50Posted 7/18/2013 12:58:48 PM
I have a better question. How's socialism working out for Jesus?
#15Justin2KrelianPosted 7/18/2013 1:43:02 PM
Irvy_and_Selphy posted...
What about Sweden too? And Norway and Swiss? Oh, wait, that's right, they're all doing awesome! :p Even Canada, much more ''socialist'' than the U.S., is doing better than the U.S. economically.

Just saying, I guess the point is ''socialism'' work just as well/bad as capitalist. Some country (like France) do bad with ''socialism'', while the U.S. do bad with capitalist. The difference being, one system, the mixed economy one, show more concern for its poor and middle-class citizens.


As I understand, Switzerland is one of the most capitalist countries in Europe. You're right on the other two, of course.
#16Bond_543Posted 7/18/2013 2:44:29 PM
What about Sweden too? And Norway and Swiss? Oh, wait, that's right, they're all doing awesome! :p Even Canada, much more ''socialist'' than the U.S., is doing better than the U.S. economically.

People keep saying this but for the past decade or so these countries have reversed somewhat with their social central planning and have been moving more toward free market capitalist policies which is why they are faring way better than the rest. Take Sweden for example. It hit its worst stride in the 90's but since then it has reduced its govt bureaucracy by 25%. Sweden does not have a national minimum wage, it uses a more privatized voucher system for its education system, they have also changed their healthcare system as well to reflect a more private mentality. Their debt per GDP is one of the lowest in europe. but over here liberals/progressives call all of these ideas evil even tho they want the U.S. to be more like Sweden. guess what most U.S. liberal ideas dont reflect the political attitude in Sweden today.
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#17Neo1661Posted 7/19/2013 2:23:41 AM
Oh so America has never been In recession and high unemployment rate? Idiot.
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