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Pro-life and theism are incompatible...

#1sextronbotPosted 5/26/2011 1:16:29 AM
If abortion really is wrong then God obviously agrees that abortion is wrong, but if God does believe that abortion is wrong then why does he allow miscarriages to happen?
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#2DiranosaurPosted 5/26/2011 1:48:33 AM
Theism is not equal to Abrahamic religions, but I get your point. Christians would say that it's part of God's plan and that it is justified because it's God doing it and not a human.
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#3Infamous681Posted 5/26/2011 3:15:13 AM
Oh good. Finally we can put this to rest.
#4YingYang123Posted 5/26/2011 3:17:04 AM
You are not allowed to kill.

God has killed.

Where are the cartographers of human purpose?
#5Billy Bob JoePosted 5/26/2011 3:19:50 AM
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#6cyclonekrusePosted 5/26/2011 3:42:12 AM
That's about like saying being anti-war and a theist is incompatible because God allows people to die of heart attacks.
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#7squareandrarePosted 5/26/2011 5:39:15 AM
If god cares so much for unborn embryos, why did he make meiosis so prone to things like nondisjunction? The numbers are obviously hard to pin down (estimates have ranged from 30% to 75%), but a large percent of embryos are killed off by the mother's body before she even knows that she's pregnant. If the mother's body detects severe chromosomal problems, god apparently designed it to kill off the embryo.

To give you an idea how common nondisjunction is... Down Syndrome is the particular case where there is a third copy of the 21st chromosome. It's one of the few cases of nondisjunction that isn't necessarily fatal, and even then, most embryos with this condition are killed off by the mother's body. After all these filters, Down Syndrome still isn't a particularly rare disorder.

I'm not so sure about using this to make conclusions about abortion, but it is abundantly clear that god does not feel every embryo is holy.
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#8MJackMageePosted 5/26/2011 9:25:31 AM
Abortions and mis-carriages are not the same thing.
Humans will only notice when the probability does not go their way.
#9squareandrarePosted 5/26/2011 9:52:58 AM
Miscarriages are called "spontaneous abortions."
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#10garet_0007Posted 5/26/2011 1:34:59 PM
I don't get the overlap between the pro life crowd and the death penalty crowd.
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