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What is your resposne to each of these points?

#1Aperture_ShadoPosted 5/28/2011 11:52:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zexcwYqFJUs

Watch this and the beginning of part 2. Just curious if you guys have atheist arguments in response to Shock's general points for Christian theism.
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#2thaer_dudePosted 5/28/2011 12:06:45 PM
I can't seem to be able to muster up a resposne, sorry.
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#3sthaterPosted 5/28/2011 12:15:56 PM
I thought the last time we established that nobody liked the videos and you just closed the topic. So why again? :|
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#4Reinbach_IIIPosted 5/28/2011 12:16:39 PM
My resposnes to your points are as follows;
1: No, telling us to watch more than one of that guy's videos is on a par with telling us to go **** ourselves.
2: If that's the case, then you'd better just the post the things you think are worth responding to here.
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#5NsM ComatosisPosted 5/28/2011 12:32:57 PM(edited)
You know, you could simply be not lazy and summarize what the guy is saying. Funny that whenever you post a shockofgod video, you tell us to watch the whole thing before commenting, but when you post an atheist's video, you waste no time telling us what to think about it before we even had a chance to watch the vid.

Anyway, I watched the first vid, and two things stand out:

1. This nonsense argument is WLC's bread and butter, so we might as well listen to him instead, considering he's more eloquent and educated on the subject. Even the terminology this guy uses leads me to think he's just plagiarizing WLC's debates.
2. Tied to the above, it really IS a nonsense argument. All you have to do is google "cosmological argument refutations."

EDIT: Yet more fail bringing up the false fine-tuning argument.
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#6Aperture_Shado(Topic Creator)Posted 5/28/2011 12:26:19 PM
I thought the last time we established that nobody liked the videos and you just closed the topic. So why again? :|

I decided that I'm only going to post videos if I find something significant about them. Like this one. So do you have any response to his arguments?
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#7sthaterPosted 5/28/2011 12:33:30 PM

From: Aperture_Shado | Posted: 5/28/2011 12:26:19 PM | #006
I thought the last time we established that nobody liked the videos and you just closed the topic. So why again? :|

I decided that I'm only going to post videos if I find something significant about them. Like this one. So do you have any response to his arguments?


Not really an option for me atm. And even if it was I can think of plenty of better ways to waste bandwidth.
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#8thaer_dudePosted 5/28/2011 12:37:04 PM
Aperture_Shado posted...
I thought the last time we established that nobody liked the videos and you just closed the topic. So why again? :|

I decided that I'm only going to post videos if I find something significant about them. Like this one. So do you have any response to his arguments?


Tell me which ones he used, and I shall give a response to them. Cosmological, fine-tuning, what else?
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#9OzymandiasIVPosted 5/28/2011 12:37:07 PM
And Shado just ignored everyone telling him to write down the things he wants us to respond to. Does he never learn that very few people are actually willing to watch these videos?
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#10NsM ComatosisPosted 5/28/2011 12:41:52 PM
I watched the video just now. And yeah, he's basically plagiarizing WLC.

1. Cosmological argument.
2. Teleological argument
3. The usual "we have no objective basis for morality on atheism, but we do on Christian theism."
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