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Thoughts on this line of biblical scripture

#1TomPettyIsGodPosted 7/22/2011 8:58:57 AM
Luke 14:26 "If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple."

I've never come across this line before when people talk about Jesus. What are people's thoughts on it?
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#2OrangeWizardPosted 7/22/2011 9:21:40 AM
Try considering the context instead of taking just one lone sentence at face value. You might learn something
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#3OrnitierIXPosted 7/22/2011 9:32:50 AM
From the context, it seems like Jesus is speaking of the commitment it takes to be his disciple.

In other words, if you still have attachment to your family, or attachment to your own satisfaction, which may dissuade you from following him, he wants nothing to do with you.

Not a biblical scholar here, just my reading.
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#4OrangeWizardPosted 7/22/2011 9:49:59 AM
See? You don't need to be a biblical scholar to figure out something as easy as this. Just read the context and everything will become clear.
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#5TomPettyIsGod(Topic Creator)Posted 7/22/2011 9:52:50 AM
Try considering the context instead of taking just one lone sentence at face value. You might learn something

I just came across it online. I'm not making any judgement of assumption. I'd like to hear people's thoughts on it. That's all.
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#6OrangeWizardPosted 7/22/2011 9:55:15 AM
What do YOU think about it?
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"this game is about reality. ... when you fire a gun you are not like "what is this am i shooting sausages?""
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#7GuideToTheDarkPosted 7/22/2011 9:58:32 AM
I've read of a buddhist teacher saying something similar, except it went more along the lines of "be prepared/do not hesistate to kill your father, mother anything you are attached to. If the police come to stop you, kill them too."
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#8TomPettyIsGod(Topic Creator)Posted 7/22/2011 9:58:33 AM
I can definitely see the commitment interpretation, but the use of the word "hate" I find to be a little perplexing.
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#9OrangeWizardPosted 7/22/2011 10:05:39 AM(edited)
Often times in the bible, the word for "hate" means to "love less".

They didn't have a word for "like", or "dislike" or anything in-between. It was either love or hate. They didn't have a word for anything else.

And this was obviously when Jesus was teaching, so even if he did really mean "to absolutely detest", it's okay, because he's just teaching with emphasis. People do that today.
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#10OrnitierIXPosted 7/22/2011 10:10:59 AM
Yeah, you have to remember it's been translated from the Greek, which may not have all the nuances of modern English.
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