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Person A: "Why did God order the death of innocent people in Old Testament?"

#1DianeSELWYN2001Posted 7/26/2011 9:46:42 AM(edited)
A lot of these tribes seemed to be the progeny of the Nephilim, or the Nephilim themselves. This group of people is probably the only group that God has never given grace to. The Bible makes it clear that God hates them and thus orders swift destruction of these people. And probably for good reason: It seems to be part of Satan's agenda.

These things are not really people or human. They're most likely the product of genetic tampering between fallen angels and humans. We know there must have been genetic tampering going on because Jesus said that angels can't have sexual intercourse.

But, why would fallen angels and their offspring embark on this hybridization process??

Here are some theories from scholars:

1. A nephilim body could be empty of a soul, making it a ripe body for a fallen angel to inhabit.
2. It's likely part of Satan's orders. God told Satan in the garden of Eden that his son would come to the world one day. And because of that announcement, Satan made a plan to prevent the messianic birth from happening. To do this, he would make the world into his team's progeny. It's like setting " mine field" for the messiah birth.

But, then the flood came just in time to wipe out a good number of these nephilim beings. Noah's bloodline was the last "genetically pure" bloodline on Earth; and thus, his untainted bloodline was spared



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#2DianeSELWYN2001(Topic Creator)Posted 7/26/2011 9:44:04 AM
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#3anavriNPosted 7/26/2011 10:02:14 AM
1) The Flood isn't the only story where God orders indiscriminate killing
2) There's so little mentioned in the Bible about the Nephilip that all speculation about them is idle and will not resolve much. Hell, most christians don't even know this is the rational in the Bible for the Flood!
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#4actarusPosted 7/26/2011 10:10:37 AM
Genesis 6:4-5
4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

You want an explanation based on 1 verse?
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#5actarusPosted 7/26/2011 10:16:40 AM
anavriN posted...
1) The Flood isn't the only story where God orders indiscriminate killing
2) There's so little mentioned in the Bible about the Nephilip that all speculation about them is idle and will not resolve much. Hell, most christians don't even know this is the rational in the Bible for the Flood!


Are you looking for a naturalistic explication for the Flood while the animals coming in pairs to the Ark?
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#6anavriNPosted 7/26/2011 10:20:00 AM
Are you looking for a naturalistic explication for the Flood while the animals coming in pairs to the Ark?

What...?
This sentence makes no sense.
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#7kozlo100Posted 7/26/2011 10:20:16 AM
2) There's so little mentioned in the Bible about the Nephilip that all speculation about them is idle and will not resolve much. Hell, most christians don't even know this is the rational in the Bible for the Flood!

This is what came to my mind as well. The bible says so little about the Nephilim, and nothing at all about their relation to Satan or his plans pre-flood. In fact, I don't think it mentions Satan at all in relation to the flood.

I think it would be a very long row to hoe to get scriptural support for the theories being posited in the OP.
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#8Master CilanderPosted 7/26/2011 3:37:29 PM
The Book of Enoch is valid. In fact there is evidence it set the tone of the new testament. Jude even quotes it so I have no reason to ignore it.
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