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Superman solves the ground zero cross debate.

#1way2tired2namePosted 8/4/2011 8:54:36 AM
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#2IvashankoPosted 8/4/2011 9:30:46 AM
There is a debate over this?

That is silly. The Cross is seen as being a marking place of the dead in much of the world now, and in this sense has taken a cultural form rather than a religious one.
#3JamesB0ndOO7Posted 8/4/2011 9:49:06 AM
Ivashanko posted...
There is a debate over this?

That is silly. The Cross is seen as being a marking place of the dead in much of the world now, and in this sense has taken a cultural form rather than a religious one.


lolno
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#4IvashankoPosted 8/4/2011 10:06:01 AM(edited)
lolno

Maybe you are culturally deaf, but that is not a problem of the rest of the world.

Edit: To be fair, you might be saying that this case is different, since the attacks were overtly Islamic in nature, and thus a cross would be seen as being overtly religious as well.
#5kozlo100Posted 8/4/2011 9:56:40 AM
I would like to know the details of this debate. Is there a link or something I could look at?
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#6OrangeWizardPosted 8/4/2011 10:03:10 AM
I would assume that it goes deeper than "Atheists mad". I hope it would, at least.
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#7OnceInALifeTimePosted 8/4/2011 12:58:34 PM
Basically the cross doesn't represent all the people who died and helped prevent people dying at ground zero, and the idea being put forward is that you either get rid of the cross and replace it with something that represents everybody, or you include multiple statues that represent the full breadth of that day and, well, represent everybody.
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#8fudrickPosted 8/4/2011 1:06:20 PM
Or you could just ignore it. I don't really see why people make such a big deal about stuff like this. It's not like they're forcing anyone to pray at the cross or anything.
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#9OnceInALifeTimePosted 8/4/2011 1:15:32 PM
Because a cross represents a very particular religion, and people don't want 9/11 to seem like one religion against another? Or that some may think it's an insult to represent the Muslims who died in the attacks with a cross? Or that it's American Christian culture transposing itself onto national tragedies that affected more than just Christians?

I don't particularly care, being British, but I can see why people are getting riled up. No point increasing tensions or creating problems when the alternatives are very simple and much more respectful.
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#10kozlo100Posted 8/4/2011 1:47:57 PM
Are we talking about this cross: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_cross

If so, I think I favor it being included in the monument, but not being the main focal point.

The main thing, I think, is that this shouldn't turn into a shouting contest between regions, nor should we bend over backwards to make sure the whole thing is completely secular. Lots of people with lots of different world views died that day. The memorial should represent that.
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