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How relevant is the Old Testament for Christians?

#1OrnitierIXPosted 8/14/2011 6:05:25 AM
I've seen this creep up in a few threads, and I thought a thread dedicated to the subject might be productive.

For Christians, how much of the Old Testament applies? More specifically, but not necessarily always limited to, the laws given to Moses. I'm not very well-versed in the Bible, so I don't have an opinion, but I've seen arguments made that run the gambit from "none of it" to "every single word".

So where do you stand on this?
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#2dnLpkPosted 8/14/2011 6:21:30 AM
Lots of the OT applies to us. Although most of the literal "Law" is outdated by cultural differences you can still derive insight from them, as well as from the stories of the patriarchs, the prophets, king David/Solomon, and from the proverbs. I personally prefer the NT over the OT because the OT mostly just shoves it down your throats while the NT explains the context/reason why some of the advice given are followed. Both of the testaments however essentially share the same Christian core except they're revealed in two very different methods.
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#3SilviiroPosted 8/14/2011 8:22:15 AM
The Law was given only to the Jews and not the Gentiles. Most Christians are Gentiles and as such the Law never applied to them.
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#4actarusPosted 8/14/2011 8:37:13 AM
Every mayor OT personage is called or quoted except Esther
http://mb-soft.com/believe/txh/ntot.htm
The style and culture is the same as in the Old Testament.

The New covenant made an end of the Priesthood (Jesus is our High Priest) and rituals but NOT the Law.

If you want to break the prophetic code in Revelation need you to search by keywords in the whole Bible.

The "Day of the Lord" by the Prophets is about the Last Year in the End Time.

"Song of Songs" is an allegory of the marriage of the woman( God's people / Church) with the Lamb (Jesus / Messiah) in Revelation.


For real Christians is the Old Testament very important.
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#5DiranosaurPosted 8/14/2011 8:48:49 AM
It SHOULD be very important to Christians as Jesus didn't abolish the law, but fulfilled, completed, it. Everything that Jesus didn't change should still apply.
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#6actarusPosted 8/14/2011 9:21:56 AM(edited)
Diranosaur posted...
It SHOULD be very important to Christians as Jesus didn't abolish the law, but fulfilled, completed, it. Everything that Jesus didn't change should still apply.

I don't think that an atheist like you SHOULD tell us what we must belief or do

Another thing is that you misquoted. Matthew 5:17
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them..
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#7actarusPosted 8/14/2011 9:20:52 AM
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#8mercuryinkPosted 8/14/2011 9:46:04 AM(edited)
I don't think that an atheist like you SHOULD tell us what we must belief or do

Hm.
misquoted Matthew 5:17
Oh, that's rich. Riiiiiich.
An atheist can't tell you what to do?
How about a Jew? A Jew like... I dunno.. Jesus? Here's a continuation of that thing you quoted, the parts Christians always conveniently leave off for some reason. I can't imagine why.
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

Thanks for making room for us, I guess?
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#9OrnitierIX(Topic Creator)Posted 8/14/2011 9:47:04 AM
until everything is accomplished

What is Jesus referring to here?
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#10mercuryinkPosted 8/14/2011 9:52:41 AM
Off the top of my head, the Messianic Age, the ultimate goal of any decent Messiah.
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