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What happens if I go to heaven and my wife to hell?

#1FreeThinkingApePosted 11/13/2012 11:00:51 AM
Cause personally it won't be heaven unless my wife is there...
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#2kozlo100Posted 11/13/2012 11:17:52 AM
Coincidentally, this question, and the philosophical and theological issues relating to it, are where my personal path to atheism began. Of course it's not the only reason I'm atheist now, not even a primary one I'd say, but it was the first question I asked that I couldn't find a sufficient answer for.
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#3TheRealJiraiyaPosted 11/13/2012 11:28:41 AM
kozlo100 posted...
Coincidentally, this question, and the philosophical and theological issues relating to it, are where my personal path to atheism began. Of course it's not the only reason I'm atheist now, not even a primary one I'd say, but it was the first question I asked that I couldn't find a sufficient answer for.


What do you think of annihilationism? Surely you could live if your wife was merely dead - at some point, you may have to do so anyway
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#4ThuggernautzPosted 11/13/2012 11:33:25 AM
TheRealJiraiya posted...

What do you think of annihilationism? Surely you could live if your wife was merely dead - at some point, you may have to do so anyway


For me, being eternally alive while knowing my loved one(s) were eternally dead would still be torturous.
#5chukie_suePosted 11/13/2012 11:40:07 AM(edited)
I suppose it will be similar to how God can continue to be all-sufficient in Himself (which includes being happy and free of the imperfection of sadness) with the fact that those He loved and desired to be saved are in Hell. I don't know.

But I do know it is a horrific underestimation of God's glory to think that the omnipotent,omniscient "Man of Sorrows, acquainted with suffering" (Is53), is not capable of preparing inconceivable riches (1Corinthians 2:9), fullness of joy, and pleasures evermore (Psalm 16:11) for those who love Him.

People perceive Hell as a place of perpetual torture. But few people have any accurate perception of what it is. It is real, it is spoken of all the time in the Bible, but our image of Hell has largely been formed by our cultures.
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#6kozlo100Posted 11/13/2012 11:47:16 AM
TheRealJiraiya posted...
What do you think of annihilationism? Surely you could live if your wife was merely dead - at some point, you may have to do so anyway


It's better, since I wouldn't have to live with the knowledge that she was actively suffering. However, I've still got some issue in her ceasing to exist when she didn't have to. Heaven forbid I should outlive my wife, but while I will be forced to live with it if I do, it won't be in any kind of a state of bliss. I can only think the same would be true in any kind of afterlife she is not present in.

You can go from there to me gaining some kind of understanding I can make peace with that, in fact, she does have to be nonexistent, but it's awfully hard to speculate about the effect of information that nobody currently knows.
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#7ForsakenHermitPosted 11/13/2012 11:49:14 AM(edited)
One thing that turns me off from Christianity is the idea that you don't feel any different about your wife than some random Christian woman in heaven.
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#8SirThinkALotPosted 11/13/2012 12:34:53 PM
ForsakenHermit posted...
One thing that turns me off from Christianity is the idea that you don't feel any different about your wife than some random Christian woman in heaven.


I'm a little confused as to what you are saying...could you explain better?
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#9JonWood007Posted 11/13/2012 12:39:52 PM
Since Christ is supposed to be #1 in your life above all things, it shouldn't matter I think is the correct Christian answer.
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#10LastManStandingPosted 11/13/2012 12:42:51 PM
Work with your wife that she may also pick heaven on judgment day. Read Divine Mercy diary for better understanding
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