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Peter Heck video - "The Sound of Abortion"

#1SuibomPosted 1/29/2013 7:38:22 PM
Peter Heck, a Christian commentator on social issues, gave a speech on the American holocaust that is abortion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdTjLZPnvKM&sns=em

I know some of you will give this a hand wave, post a snarky response, and move on, but for those here that value all human life, this is pretty moving.
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#2lastheroPosted 1/29/2013 9:13:36 PM(edited)
Dude. You and I both value all human life. We just disagree on what human life actually is.

You don't seriously think that all the people who support abortion rights do so 'because they don't value human life' do you? Is that a thing you actually, really believe?
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#3Heineken14Posted 1/29/2013 9:14:33 PM
From: Suibom | #001
but for those here that value all human life, this is pretty moving.


Awww, isn't that cute. Already framing the conversation in your favor.
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#4JonWood007Posted 1/29/2013 10:42:48 PM
Um....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/nearly-50-million-abortions-have-been-performed-us-roe-v-wade-decision-legalized

Yeah. I think more people died in WW2 than from abortion. Or do only American lives count? I would think a pro lifer would think non Americans are lives too.

Also, it's extremely arrogant to imply those who do not sure your view don't care about human life. We just have different ideas about "life" and when fetuses should be afforded legal status. You'll see when you take theism out of it, that the secular case for abortion is rather...weak.
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#5TheRealJiraiyaPosted 1/29/2013 10:44:23 PM
Suibom posted...
holocaust


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#6OwnmerjiPosted 1/29/2013 11:01:04 PM
Alive =/= a life
#7Moorish_IdolPosted 1/29/2013 11:04:01 PM
That video was pretty cheesy, have to say.
#8PatriotwolfPosted 1/29/2013 11:16:51 PM
I find most people who are pro choice to have a psychological bias. What I mean by that is that for them, the unborn fetus is not tangible. In other words, people who are pro choice have no emotional connection. They will be all up in arms when they see one of those aspca commercials, but seem to drop the ball on abortion because they think they know when life begins
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#9Faust_8Posted 1/30/2013 12:32:35 AM
Or maybe we find it more emotionally distressing to take away reproductive rights and demote women to walking uteri than it is it to terminate non-sentient dividing cells.

We don't lack feeling about it. Many of us aren't even sure we could get an abortion ourselves. But we know it's wrong to deny that right.

I think furries are weird, that doesn't stop me from saying they should be free to do it. I don't like the idea of abortion either, but it's not something you can just take away and pretend everything will be fine.

Also, animals can suffer. Animals can feel pain and loss and fear. Early fetuses cannot. So you can't equate the two or point out a hypocrisy, there is none.
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#10Suibom(Topic Creator)Posted 1/30/2013 2:09:38 AM
JonWood007 posted...
Um....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/nearly-50-million-abortions-have-been-performed-us-roe-v-wade-decision-legalized

Yeah. I think more people died in WW2 than from abortion. Or do only American lives count? I would think a pro lifer would think non Americans are lives too.

Also, it's extremely arrogant to imply those who do not sure your view don't care about human life. We just have different ideas about "life" and when fetuses should be afforded legal status. You'll see when you take theism out of it, that the secular case for abortion is rather...weak.


The video was only counting American lives lost. Did you just not stop and think for a few before smashing your keyboard furiously looking for links to debunk its counts?!

And of course we have differing ideas on human life.

I happen to find pro-choicer's as disgusting and convenient.
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