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Is the main reason gay people can't have sex because they can't have babies?

#1EDlFlCATIONPosted 3/13/2013 3:06:02 PM
If a man and a women are proven to not be able to have babies are they forbidden from having sex as well?

Is there anything wrong with two gay men in love being in a relationship as long as there isn't sex involved?
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#2FingerpuppetPosted 3/13/2013 3:13:53 PM
You're not allowed to have sex unless it is strictly for procreation. If it is for pleasure, then you are sinning. Since gays can only have sex for pleasure, they are sinning.
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#3OrangeWizardPosted 3/13/2013 3:15:16 PM
They can have sex just fine. Who's going to stop them?
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#4Hustle KongPosted 3/13/2013 3:15:21 PM
Homosexuals CAN have sex. Did you not know that?
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#5Hustle KongPosted 3/13/2013 3:15:36 PM
Dammit.
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#6darklaoPosted 3/13/2013 3:44:57 PM
You're not allowed to have sex unless it is strictly for procreation. If it is for pleasure, then you are sinning.

This is absolutely not true. Married couples are supposed to have sex for pleasure to strengthen the marital bond. You just have to be open to the possibility that a child may result (that is, not artificially obstructing pregnancy). If a barren couple have sex, that's 100% fine as long as God is the one making them infertile.
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#7EDlFlCATION(Topic Creator)Posted 3/13/2013 3:57:01 PM
darklao posted...
You're not allowed to have sex unless it is strictly for procreation. If it is for pleasure, then you are sinning.

This is absolutely not true. Married couples are supposed to have sex for pleasure to strengthen the marital bond. You just have to be open to the possibility that a child may result (that is, not artificially obstructing pregnancy). If a barren couple have sex, that's 100% fine as long as God is the one making them infertile.


What if they are baren because of a poor lifestyle choice?

Also sex is ok... but lust is not?
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#8FlashOfLightPosted 3/13/2013 8:24:35 PM(edited)
EDlFlCATION posted...
If a man and a women are proven to not be able to have babies are they forbidden from having sex as well?

Is there anything wrong with two gay men in love being in a relationship as long as there isn't sex involved?


According to the Bible all of these things fall into inordinate affection, it's not necessarily an issue about hetero to hetero love, or relations, it's an issue dealing with the bond God has set between relations within the flesh, which is why it is against God's law for a father to intimately love or pursue sexual relations with his own daughter though they are of opposite sex. Neither does "the age of consenting adults" make sexual affection between a 45 year old father and a 25 year old daughter be within God's law.

A hetero uncle of 35 years old, to a hetero niece of 25 years old is inordinate affection, it's a relationship issue, a bond issue, between flesh, it's about blood and common relationship.

This new thing that is coming up among the younger generation, of justifying themselves having a relationship with a cartoon character and being "married" is another case of inordinate affection, if this even has to be explained, it's pathetic, but I wouldn't be surprised if still has to be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26mWFuOWwuU
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#9FlashOfLightPosted 3/13/2013 8:20:57 PM
Why, why, why? Is it such an issue with two men marrying in view of God's law? Once again, it is having to do with the relationships and bonds he established, the purpose he established between flesh to flesh.

When God created Adam, and made for him his wife, Adam was to be the head over her, and in the New Testament we read that this was a symbol for Christ's relationship with the Church, and his meaning intended by God according to his order, God first - Christ second -the Man third - then the Woman.

1Corinthians 11:3

"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God."

Ephesians 5:23-25

"For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;"
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#10FlashOfLightPosted 3/13/2013 8:23:20 PM
Now, if TWO men marry, WHO... WHICH one of them is the husband according to God's purpose? Who is head over who? It breaks God's purpose, it would be the equivalent of having two Christs.

If TWO women marry, under God's law, WHO is her head? Who is the HUSBAND? Who is the WIFE? It breaks God's purpose according to the flesh, it would be the equivalent of having two Churches.

Colossians 1:18 This is a crucial, crucial part of the mystery of the Gospel, which secularists are completely unaware of. ->

"And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence."

It is the same reason why according to God's order and purpose, the Apostles have first place, instead of the Apostles being of lesser degree, since it was by the Apostles to whom God transmitted the message of the Gospel.

1Corinthians 12:27-28

"Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues."

ALL women have an immutable connection with each other, in their ability to give childbirth, and the known sufferings when they have their period. This is a close bond, just as a mother to her daughter, all women have this connection between themselves in the eyes of God.

Likewise, men, as fathers, have an immutable connection with each other, and according to God's purpose because they can be heads of their household, and in this, being able to be heads over the assembly as bishops, and deacons, if it is necessary - 1Timothy 3:4-5

"One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)"

1Timothy 3:12 "Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well."

1Timothy 3:1-2

"This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;"
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