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Wolf Blitzer's Bible Challenge #2: <i>that</i> word

#1wolf_blitzer85Posted 4/26/2013 11:13:59 AM
the word Infidel. What exactly does it mean and in what context is it used? According to sources, it is used exactly twice.

1 Timothy 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
http://bible.cc/1_timothy/5-8.htm

2 Corinthians 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
http://bible.cc/2_corinthians/6-15.htm


A further challenge. Why in God's name (yup, in HIS name) would anyone criticize Islam if the same word in the same context appeared in The Holy Bible of Christianity?
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#2Magyar15Posted 4/26/2013 11:23:24 AM
What is this I dont even
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#3wolf_blitzer85(Topic Creator)Posted 4/26/2013 11:26:23 AM
The world infidel (apparently it means 'unbeliever' according to http://bible.cc) appears in the Bible.
In the Qur'an it appears over 400 times. Some of the references are quite shocking.
http://infidelsarecool.com/2006/12/overwhelming-evidence-of-i/

but I wanted to stay on topic here. In what context and what meaning does it have in THB?
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#4IndoriPosted 4/26/2013 11:28:21 AM
wolf_blitzer85 posted...
The world infidel (apparently it means 'unbeliever' according to http://bible.cc) appears in the Bible.
In the Qur'an it appears over 400 times. Some of the references are quite shocking.
http://infidelsarecool.com/2006/12/overwhelming-evidence-of-i/

but I wanted to stay on topic here. In what context and what meaning does it have in THB?

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#5Moorish_IdolPosted 4/26/2013 11:32:51 AM
Infidel means unbeliever. You said so yourself.

If a person proclaims to be a Christian but doesn't follow the faith, he is considered "worse" than someone who doesn't profess to be a Christian.
#6wolf_blitzer85(Topic Creator)Posted 4/26/2013 11:34:17 AM
Unbeliever in TBH seems to be no big deal.
The world infidel, especially to western conservative political/religious pundits, is on its face SERIOUS BUSINESS.

So why are we so serious business about infidel in the Qur'an, but not in THB? Seems a tad two-faced, doesn't it?
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#7JonWood007Posted 4/26/2013 11:48:04 AM
It just means nonbeliever. The only reason infidel is listed at all is because of the translation you're using. Try harder next time.
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#8Moorish_IdolPosted 4/26/2013 11:55:21 AM
wolf_blitzer85 posted...
Unbeliever in TBH seems to be no big deal.
The world infidel, especially to western conservative political/religious pundits, is on its face SERIOUS BUSINESS.

So why are we so serious business about infidel in the Qur'an, but not in THB? Seems a tad two-faced, doesn't it?

No, it doesn't.
#9wolf_blitzer85(Topic Creator)Posted 4/26/2013 11:56:40 AM
I'm not even trying.
The world infidel in the West has come to mean some unspeakable crime against all humanity, as if the word infidel has some completely evil and sinister connotation.

Obviously, it may not.

So using THB as a base, i want to explore the word infidel. Let's talk about that word.
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#10Moorish_IdolPosted 4/26/2013 11:59:14 AM
wolf_blitzer85 posted...
The world infidel in the West has come to mean some unspeakable crime against all humanity,

The world infidel in the West has come to mean

has come to mean

You've answered yourself already.