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3 years ago#171
From: Phoro | #168
This. Since we're all "formal logic" and everything is a symbol and carries no meaning, then why the topic title?


Because it was also the question at the end of the "syllogism"

Why is this on the religion board if it actually has nothing to do with religion or God?


If you think it doesn't belong, then mark it.

The topic doesn't actually ask any questions


I'm pretty sure "Is God good?" is a question, but I could be wrong.

So what was the point?


To find out how logical this board is in the midst of something emotionally disconcerting.

If we can't deal with logic as simple as what was presented, without our emotions getting in the way, I think it'd be quite difficult to successfully discuss a more complex example in the practical application of the discussions usually found on this board.


Even if every single user played along and voted 'yes'.... what happens next?


Then we advance to round 2.
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3 years ago#172
Does this topic then become irrefutable proof of God being good? No?


Is that what you thought I was trying to prove?
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3 years ago#173
Another way to put it, using my own totally inane formal logic:

1. God kills babies.
2. God is good.
3. So it's totally f***ed up that God kills babies, right??

That's pretty much how I read it.
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3 years ago#174
OrangeWizard posted...


I'm pretty sure "Is God good?" is a question, but I could be wrong.


Ah, but you didn't ask "Is God good?". You asked "Is X Z?". 'God' and 'Good' have no meaning in this insufferable little exercise.
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3 years ago#175
From: Phoro | #170
It's totally f***ed up that God would kill babies! That's awful!


See that? That was an emotional response. It clouded your judgement.
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3 years ago#176
From: Phoro | #174
Ah, but you didn't ask "Is God good?". You asked "Is X Z?". 'God' and 'Good' have no meaning in this insufferable little exercise.


I defined God, and I defined good.

From: kozlo100 | #095
God is a thing which is good and killed a baby.
Good is a property that God has.

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3 years ago#177
Polish_Crusader posted...
I love how nobody gave a reason for why they voted no. lol. the low level of intelligence of some people just amazes me.

If God really hated us dont you think he would destroy us? Why would he hate or do bad to his own creation? We cannot blame god for the evil of other men. What did God ever do to you or any of us?


I don't believe neither event is true or actually happened/happens, but according to the Bible:

1) Flooded everyone but one family.

2) Sends people to burn in torment for all eternity.
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3 years ago#178
OrangeWizard posted...
From: Phoro | #174
Ah, but you didn't ask "Is God good?". You asked "Is X Z?". 'God' and 'Good' have no meaning in this insufferable little exercise.


I defined God, and I defined good.

From: kozlo100 | #095
God is a thing which is good and killed a baby.
Good is a property that God has.


What? You most certainly did not define good. We understand that 'good' is a property that God has, but we don't know what 'good' is. And if you respond by saying that "good is X", then the initial question isn't "Is God good?", it's "Is God X?". Or whatever other meaningless symbol you use instead.

So again, there is no actual, applicable, real world question in the title. There is no meaning, there is no purpose.
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3 years ago#179
I may be wrong, but it seems be that some people think that this is a trap.
That I'm doing something devious to them.
Like I'm fooling people into becoming Christians, or something.


You don't have to be scared of logic. Logic cannot hurt you. It cannot trick you. It cannot trap you.

Take this example from Wikipedia:

"All cups are green.
Socrates is a cup.
Is Socrates green?"

If you answer "yes", you don't need to fear being ridiculed for thinking that Socrates is a cup. You don't need to feel embarrassed for accepting that Socrates is green. There's no trap here. There's no devious scheme.
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3 years ago#180
OrangeWizard posted...
From: Phoro | #170
It's totally f***ed up that God would kill babies! That's awful!


See that? That was an emotional response. It clouded your judgement.


Exactly the kind of Vulcan bull**** I'm talking about.

1. OW is a compassionate, caring human being.
2. OW says things like "genocide isn't inherently bad".
3. Is OW bat**** crazy?
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