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For those who don't believe in evolution, do you believe in genetics?

#11SirThinkALotPosted 8/24/2013 7:46:06 AM
vgsrule posted...
TheBlackCat13 posted...
SirThinkALot posted...
they just deny that it can create new species.

You mean new "kinds".


Yeah, from my very short lurking here, I've seen that a few time, and I don't even get it.

You're basically saying that you acknowledge that animals change over time, but they're not technically a new "kind" of species.

Isn't that just semantics? You said you believe in evolution, but disagree with the definition for a pointless reason. I mean, really, that's an agreement right there.

Anyway, I just made this topic because I find it hypocritical. Evolution basically is genetics on a much grander scale. Evolution is simply what genetics cause to happen over a very long time


This is basically why I fully rejected creationism(not that I ever really accepted it). They basically admit that natural selection works(even if they avoid using the term 'natural selection') but then deny that the cumulative effects can create something entirely new. Its like saying 'Sure you can drive to the end of the street, but theres no way you can drive to the next county.'
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#12rick alveradoPosted 8/25/2013 9:21:32 AM
vgsrule posted...
You HAVE to be biased to not believe in it, because it makes perfect sense, and has been shown countless times.


Or ignorant. Some people simply haven't looked into it, and therefore don't know about it.
#13Faust_8Posted 8/25/2013 11:00:20 AM
That's the thing with evolution; for it to make perfect sense you need to know SOMETHING about biology, genetics, taxonomy, geology, and some other science fields. And many people don't, not wanting to or needing to know anything about science and only being introduced to it in high school.

And high school really doesn't teach you enough about evolution to properly know why it's the unifying theory of all life science.

Some people know about as much of science as I know of art, and I don't know a damn thing about art, because it's just not something I'm interested in or ever wanted to pursue. For some people, they're like that with science.

That's not a bad thing (we need diversity) but the bad thing is when they start making sweeping absolute statements of something they don't know anything about. You don't see me saying Van Gogh sucks just because I--someone who doesn't care about art or ever looked into it--don't see the appeal.
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#14darkmaian23Posted 8/25/2013 11:35:18 AM
Faust_8 posted...
That's the thing with evolution; for it to make perfect sense you need to know SOMETHING about biology, genetics, taxonomy, geology, and some other science fields. And many people don't, not wanting to or needing to know anything about science and only being introduced to it in high school.

And high school really doesn't teach you enough about evolution to properly know why it's the unifying theory of all life science.

Some people know about as much of science as I know of art, and I don't know a damn thing about art, because it's just not something I'm interested in or ever wanted to pursue. For some people, they're like that with science.

That's not a bad thing (we need diversity) but the bad thing is when they start making sweeping absolute statements of something they don't know anything about. You don't see me saying Van Gogh sucks just because I--someone who doesn't care about art or ever looked into it--don't see the appeal.


I would argue that a basic understanding of science--especially the incredible truth of evolution--is essential to being an educated person. Few people like to write, but nearly everyone leaves school with the ability to read and write at a basic level. It isn't about interest in science any more than it is about interest in writing.

Learning science is both hard and, in a public school, controversial. I graduated from high school only a few years ago, and my teacher never even explained what evolution was, why it was important, or just how good the evidence was. An otherwise excellent teacher and upstanding man who knew better was forced to say, "you can believe whatever you want" due to religious pressure from the community and angry parents. He never even taught a single lesson on the subject.

It isn't a matter of hobby or interest to be granted basic knowledge about one of the most fundamental and astonishing truths ever to be discovered about the world. Evolution, like basic atomic theory, is something everyone should be told about in school.
#15GuideToTheDarkPosted 8/26/2013 5:50:12 PM
Getting through high school doesn't make you an educated person so much as prove you have base functions. Being well-rounded is a personal pursuit.
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