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Just another topic about the homosexuality and the Bible.

#31C_Mat(Topic Creator)Posted 1/29/2014 9:32:00 AM
We'll, you're the one who just injected the word "forcibly" in there. The Bible doesn't say that.
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#32master_gamr1231Posted 1/29/2014 9:55:47 AM
So... you're assuming that the angels wanted to have sex with them? Because that is what defines rape, you know. And if the angels wanted gay sex... well, that greatly seems to support the idea that it's not that bad.
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#33C_Mat(Topic Creator)Posted 1/29/2014 10:16:49 AM
^have you even read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah?
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#34master_gamr1231Posted 1/29/2014 10:23:57 AM
C_Mat posted...
^have you even read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah?


I have. What are you getting at?
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#35the_hedonistPosted 1/29/2014 10:42:35 AM
This is related, but only tangentially:

http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/same-sex-attraction-and-the-wait-for-change
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#36C_Mat(Topic Creator)Posted 1/29/2014 10:43:40 AM
Nobody said the angels had sex (or even wanted to) with anyone. I'm saying that the sodomites were asking to have consensual sexual relations with the male angels in Lot's house. Your previous post makes no sense.
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#37mercurydudePosted 1/29/2014 10:51:04 AM
Maybe I'm just slutty like that, but nobody's ever had to "bring" me to someone for consensual sex. I guess I should be ashamed of my heathen ways and have the whole thing arranged next time.

C_Mat, you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel to connect S&G to homosexuality in general. I understand that's a popular "traditional" understanding of the story, but when you read what the Bible actually says, it has no more justification than the old belief that black people were cursed as a slave race by the "Curse of Ham." As a matter of fact, God made the decision to destroy the city before the encounter with the angels even happened.
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#38master_gamr1231Posted 1/29/2014 11:04:57 AM
C_Mat posted...
Nobody said the angels had sex (or even wanted to) with anyone. I'm saying that the sodomites were asking to have consensual sexual relations with the male angels in Lot's house. Your previous post makes no sense.


So the men were surrounding the house and calling out for the owner to give them his guests to have *consensual* sex. And I'm the one who's making no sense. Never knew you were quite so kinky.

"It wasn't rape! I wanted consensual sex, but they refused!"
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#39C_Mat(Topic Creator)Posted 1/29/2014 11:08:58 AM
I'm not sure what's not making sense to you, it makes perfect sense to me.
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#40master_gamr1231Posted 1/29/2014 11:12:33 AM
C_Mat posted...
I'm not sure what's not making sense to you, it makes perfect sense to me.


Here's a heads-up: consensus isn't determined unilaterally.
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