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Americans are losing their religion

#21infinite9Posted 3/16/2014 10:34:12 AM
Just because someone feels that religion isn't that important in their lives doesn't mean that person rejects religion.

I describe myself as a people-based heathen deist but I'm not constantly honoring my gods or going out of my way to make tribute. That doesn't mean that I'm losing my religion.
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#22bfslick50Posted 3/16/2014 12:31:09 PM
The_Zora_King posted...
I'm sure there are less religious people because there is more information out there to deconvert them. It was through the internet that I discovered Atheism existed, that there is no conclusive evidence of God, that Christianity is just one of many religions rather than the truth, and was able to hear arguments against God.


This is why I don't like the way religion is taught. You shouldn't need the Internet to learn that. When it comes to the religious dogma, religions should take a note from scientists and be open and honest about doubt and their horizon of ignorance. The most important part about belonging to a church is not the dogma but being part of a community committed to performing good acts.
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#23The_Zora_KingPosted 3/16/2014 1:02:50 PM
bfslick50 posted...
The_Zora_King posted...
I'm sure there are less religious people because there is more information out there to deconvert them. It was through the internet that I discovered Atheism existed, that there is no conclusive evidence of God, that Christianity is just one of many religions rather than the truth, and was able to hear arguments against God.


This is why I don't like the way religion is taught. You shouldn't need the Internet to learn that. When it comes to the religious dogma, religions should take a note from scientists and be open and honest about doubt and their horizon of ignorance. The most important part about belonging to a church is not the dogma but being part of a community committed to performing good acts.


Indoctrination doesn't work as well if you realize there are other options. Fear of hell to keep people in line (which kept me from leaving religion sooner) doesn't work as well when the possibility that it doesn't exist is available.
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#24bfslick50Posted 3/16/2014 1:27:11 PM
Exactly Zora, that's why religion shouldn't be taught through fear or as an absolute fact.
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#25The_Zora_KingPosted 3/16/2014 9:23:02 PM
bfslick50 posted...
Exactly Zora, that's why religion shouldn't be taught through fear or as an absolute fact.


A cult doesn't want you have any view but its own. Through Malice or ignorance, they consider their way the only way.
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#26The_Zora_KingPosted 3/16/2014 9:25:10 PM
Also, some people are saying that Americans are just more open about being non-religious than losing their religion? The fact that people can be open now means that religion does not have the iron grip it once did.

When Priests, pastors, and older people talk about how the pews are a lot less full than they once were, I believe them. When I hear news stories from CNN, NPR, Newsweek, etc. that young Americans are less religious, I believe them.

This isn't people being more open. This is people losing belief.
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#27master_gamr1231Posted 3/16/2014 11:08:25 PM
bfslick50 posted...
Exactly Zora, that's why religion shouldn't be taught through fear or as an absolute fact.


It shouldn't be, but it will continue to be because that is the easiest and likeliest way to gain ardent followers.
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#28Wandering__HeroPosted 3/17/2014 5:23:44 AM
The right wing tried to kidnap and replace Jesus and now everyone is all confused
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#29SSj4WingzeroPosted 3/17/2014 5:38:18 AM
Pews being full =/= people being more religious.

I can't believe I actually have to explain that.
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#30SSj4WingzeroPosted 3/17/2014 8:59:34 AM
The more I think about it, I see your point about how people not being afraid of not going to church might be sign of a less religious country as a whole. But I think that has much more to do with religion's polarization in America than it has to do with people being less religious as a whole, and all I mean to caution against is the idea that church attendance is somehow correlated with religiosity. Even today, many people in church don't really want to be there and just go because it's what most people in their community do. I think it became more socially acceptable to distance oneself from church when some preachers like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell took "evangelical" Christianity to polar extremes, especially in terms of their alignment with the Republican party.
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