What? What? WHAT? tearsofrage's Doctor Who and Torchwood watchthrough topic

#1tearsofragePosted 7/25/2012 12:21:38 AM
So, I have a watchthrough topic going on on the Broadcast Television board, and one of them recommended that I also posts my reviews here. I decided that was a good idea, especially because I don't think most of them really care about Torchwood haha.

Anyways, I began doing the watchthrough topic when I started Series 3 of Doctor Who, but I have reviews of the first two seasons in the topic, as well as of the first season of Torchwood. I'm currently on the second season of Torchwood. Here is the link to the other topic, if you would like to read my other reviews:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/225-television-broadcast-tv/63276685

Also, I've decided to go back and watch some classic Doctor Who. I won't make a priority of it, nor will I post formal reviews, but I might mention something about it if I feel like it.
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#2tearsofrage(Topic Creator)Posted 7/25/2012 12:21:56 AM
Torchwood: Series 2, Episode 10 Ė From Out in the Rain

We have kind of a fairly standalone episode here. It wasnít great, and it was horrible. It was a very average episode of television. We learned little bits about some of our characters, though. Ianto is a huge geek, for one. And though we already knew that, we didnít quite know by how much he is one. Jack was in a traveling show. Although, thereís a seeming discontinuity that I think might have happened. Jack said he was sent to look for the ďNight TravelersĒ, but he also said his act was being the invincible man (or something like it), implying that he was immortal. But, he was already out of the time agency by the time he was immortal, so who sent him?

I dunno, I didnít find the villains very scary here. I felt like anybody who could move at a fair pace would easily be able to miss them. And, their deaths didnít quite make senseÖbut that doesnít matter. I dunno, not much to day about this episode. I assume itíll be the last standalone of the series until series 4, since the finale three episodes of the season are written by the same guy. And I assume the return of captain John Hart is soon, right? I certainly hope so.
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#3tearsofrage(Topic Creator)Posted 7/25/2012 3:25:53 PM
Torchwood: Series 2, Episode 11 Ė Adrift

Wow, what a good episode. This show can be really, really dark sometimes, which was showcased here. The idea of the rift taking people is something that the show obviously hasnít dealt with before. Of course, thatís partially because they believed that the rift couldnít take anybody, but as viewers we shouldíve known that wasnít true, because of the episode Captain Jack Harkness, when the rift (being controlled by someone) took Jack and Tosh. But, then again, Jack knew the whole time that the rift could take people, and he was as secretive about it as usual. But, he also wasnít ignoring it. He set up a place for them to be treated, a kind of hospice, since they donít know how to help these people. It was really tragic, the meeting between Jonah and his mother.

Jonahís whole story was just tragic. I canít help but to think the name was intentionally picked from the Bible, being swallowed by the rift. The meeting between him and his mom was heartbreaking, and perfect. I loved he reaction, saying that she wishes she didnít know, just because itís so human. Torchwood often times doesnít have a happy ending, like how in last episode, they could only save one out of several, or when the Grim Reaper came around and killed 12 people. Here, we have a bunch of people who are missing loved ones, desperate to know what happened to them. Only, the truth is much worse than not knowing (for most), so nothing is solved, no one is saved.

Though the plot was intriguing, well structured, and tragic, this episode wasnít really about that. It was about Gwen. She was confronted with her past, and wondering exactly how much has she changed? And is it for the better or worse? But at the end of the episode, I think sheís just more confused about who she is, but clearer about who she wants to be. She and Rhys had some great scenes here, too. Rhys getting mad and yelling at her was great, because he had some good points, but he also said somethings that were uncalled for. But it was all honest, and at the end, he was there for Gwen, and Gwen was honest with him.

Overall, an excellent episode with some real character development for Gwen. And Gwenís friend Andy was actually really good here. Andy has just kinda been around for a while, but I never found him remotely interesting until this episode. He was actually pretty caring, kinda sweet, and kinda of a jerk, which makes him interesting and likeable. I think he misses Gwen, and given his feelings for her, that makes sense. But he also wasnít wrong, and I really enjoyed the dynamic between them.
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#4tearsofrage(Topic Creator)Posted 7/25/2012 3:50:06 PM
Torchwood: Series 2, Episode 12 Ė Fragments

I love episodes like these! The Firefly episode Out of Gas did it best, but we have a great one here, too. All of the characterís backstories mostly made sense, too. One thing that was odd was in Jackís flashback, in 1999 his character seemed different, but that might have been bad acting by Barrowman (heís great at being charming and suave, but Barrowman doesnít have the best range). But, overall, the continuity here was great. Tosh has been around five years, as was previously established. We see how Jack met that little girl (or whatever she really is).

But, no surprise here, Owen has the best story out of the team. I get the feeling that Owen has always been completely jaded, but when heís in love, heís really alive. So, it was nice to see him happy, even if I knew it was going to go horribly wrong for him. And naturally, it did. It was a tragic case, as Alzheimerís is an incredibly tragic disease. And to see it in a young, prospective bride? It was a heartbreaking case, and that was before the alien hatched and killed all of the doctors. I did like Jackís arrival at the scene, and then Owen trying to kill him in the graveyard in a fit of rage.

For the entire first series, I couldnít really figure out what Ianto was doing as part of Torchwood. He was just kinda there. He fit in better towards the end, and then during the second series they gave him something to do, so I stopped worrying about it, but this flashback was particularly enlightening. Of course, he was only joining Torchwood to try and bring back his girlfriend, but I liked that there was the undercurrent of that motive without it actually being mentioned. But I did enjoy Ianto and Jack dinosaur hunting.

Finally, Captain John Hart! And his scheme was clever (though Iím wondering if it wouldíve been better if someone had died, Iím glad no one did). It was a bit convenient that Owen got out unscathed. And by convenient, I meant preposterous, but itís not a big deal. With a lot of time on my hands today, I am going to watch the season finale now, and hopefully I will post the review soon.
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#5tearsofrage(Topic Creator)Posted 7/25/2012 5:28:27 PM
Torchwood: Series 2, Episode 13 Ė Exit Wounds

AwwÖdamn it! I mean, wow. I canít believe they killed both Tosh and Owen! Someone dying in the finale is something I figured would happen (my bet was Rhys or Ianto), but I didnít expect two people to die! But that finale scene between Owen and Tosh was amazing. They gave Owen the most painful death they could imagine. Now, we didnít actually see Owen die, so I figured thereís a slight chance that he is alive, especially on this show. But itís so slight, I sincerely doubt it. Plus, I kinda hope not. Heís my favorite on the show, but it wouldnít be as meaningful if he did survived. And poor Tosh. That video she left for everyone was heartbreaking.

I liked the reveal that John Hart wasnít really a bad guy after all. Perhaps morally grey, but not a bad guy. I hope we see him again in the future. Gray was actually a great villain. He manipulated everything and legitimately caused a lot of destruction and loss of life, as well as causing the death of two major characters. And naturally, keeping him alive is going to haunt Jack. John was right; killing him would be much better. It would also give him the closure heís looking for. But Jack is being selfish. Heís keeping Gray alive until he can find a way to get absolution from Gray.

Overall, a fantastic finale. There was a lot to like here. Series 2 of Torchwood was far better than series 1. There was some great character work on display as well as some pretty good plot twists. But Torchwood is also an incredibly emotional show, and really digs deep into itís characters in the better episodes. At times, Torchwood felt like a big obstacle to Doctor Who that Iím too stubborn not to watch, Iím glad Iím watching it. Itís not great, but there are some great things about it.
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#6Ethereal_NightPosted 7/25/2012 6:01:38 PM
:3 glad you enjoyed it. I loved Owen as much as you did, was really sad to see him go.

The next two seasons are 5 and 10 episode long mini-series, instead of being individual episodes
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#7tearsofrage(Topic Creator)Posted 7/27/2012 2:42:11 PM
Doctor Who: Series 4, Episode 1 Ė Partners in Crime

This was definitely the best premiere yet. I think it helped to have both an already established companion and Doctor Ė the first time of the new series. And I was really glad to see Donna back as well! I had thought Iíd heard that she was a companionÖanyways, Donna is clearly a changed woman since her Christmas adventure with the Doctor. I think itís interesting that she did begin to explore the world, only to find it tedious with commercialism, something that she used to make her whole world about. But sheís now looking for the Doctor, and that means looking for danger. But even though sheís not as vapid as she used to be, sheís still as fiery as ever, which is gonna lead to some great comedy, methinks. I also loved all of their near misses in pursuit of the conspiracy of the episode. I also loved Donnaís uncle, and it was kind of sweet how she waved good-bye to him.

This episode was more about Donna, the Doctor still had some good stuff here too. I really liked him warning Donna about what happened with him and Martha, which shows quite a bit of growth. I think heís been afraid to take on another companion. But Donnaís reaction was perfect, and I really hope it was sincere. Though I kinda liked the unrequited crush that Martha had on the Doctor, Iíd really like him to just have a plutonic relationship with a companion.

The plot of the episode was passable, but it really helped that the little fat aliens were so ****ing adorable. And I never thought Iíd be saying that. It was also a relatively harmless process, too. I wouldnít be surprised if that was advertised, to lose weight by having your fat turn into little alien children, that people would do it. You know, once people got passed the whole aliens thing.

But wow, what a cliffhanger. Rose is back! Ösorta. I gotta say, Iím actually a little worried about this. I thought Rose got a great ending to her story in Doomsday. I would be very annoyed if her story got ruined by bringing her back, but hopefully it doesnít! Anyways, a pretty good start to Tennentís last season as the Doctor.

Just curious, did they know going in that this would be his last season as the Doctor? I know that he has four or five special after this, before Matt Smith takes over in series five, which is why I ask. Just curious.
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#8EvilpolarbearPosted 7/27/2012 2:47:22 PM
From: tearsofrage | #007
Just curious, did they know going in that this would be his last season as the Doctor? I know that he has four or five special after this, before Matt Smith takes over in series five, which is why I ask. Just curious.


I'm not sure of the actual timeline, but Tennant did discuss things with Steven Moffat so he must have decided towards the end of the making of Series 4.

Moffat knew he would be showrunner before Series 4 would air, because RTD told him to write something into his S4 story that he could return to later.
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#9tearsofrage(Topic Creator)Posted 7/27/2012 3:31:03 PM
Doctor Who: Series 4, Episode 2 Ė The Fires of Pompeii

We got a better look at what kind of companion that Donna is in this episode. We had the passionate wildcard Rose, the logical and loyal Martha, and now the emotive and intuitive Donna. We also learned a bunch about the minutia of the Tardis and the Doctor. Donna enthusiasm has some pretty amusing scenes, including the scene in which she speaks in Latin to the street vendor, and he hears it in English (or Celtic). We also learned more directly how the Doctor sees the universe. I donít know if this is something that classic Who covered, but itís the first time that the new series has brought up. Rose pretty much accepted that things canít change after she created a paradox with her father and almost ruined the Earth and human race, and Martha is way too logical to ever try. But Donna cares so much, and it was worth it to her to save just one person, or just one family.

I liked the plot here, too. I think itís an interesting quandary the Doctor in in here, being that he is the one who sets off Pompeii. I mean, I do wonder, was it inevitable? Thereís obviously no easy answer to this question, if the Doctor had tried to avert the volcanic eruption, could he have taken out the aliens, and not have had to drown the entire city. But, perhaps it was fixed, and would have happened anyways, whether he showed up or not.

Overall, a pretty solid episode, and so far, series four is off to the best star so far. Iím not sure that I think itíll be able to close nearly as well as series 3 (because that was an amazing stretch), but Iím still pretty excited for this season.

On an unrelated note, I watch the Unearthly Child serial a couple days ago. While I liked the first episode a lot, the serial as a while was underwhelming. I thought it was an odd choice to have the first couple episode be more about a tribe of cavemen than the Doctor and his companions. Iím not sure yet how I feel about William Hartwell as a Doctor. He seems much more like a stuff professor rather than an adventurer, which may be what theyíre going for. I was surprised to see that he had a granddaughter. Unless itíll spoil me about something in the current series or classic series, does that mean the Doctorís whole family is dead? Does that mean that his granddaughter died when he stopped the time war? I had never really given much thought to the potential family of the Doctor.
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#10tearsofrage(Topic Creator)Posted 7/27/2012 4:00:47 PM
Doctor Who: Series 4, Episode 3 Ė Planet of the Ood

AhhÖthe first episode that I didnít really care for. Did you know that slavery was wrong? Did you? Because this episode really opened my eyes to the horrors of slavery. But in the writerís defense, I think the idea was to have Donna encounter something really terrible and briefly want to go home. I guess, to challenge her idea of the adventures with the Doctor. Iím actually really liking Donna as a companion. So far, Iíve liked all of the companions (unless the one from Voyage of the Damned counts, in which case, except her). And from most accounts, Karen Gilliam is awesome, so the new series has a pretty good record with companions so far.

I dunno, I donít really have much to say about this episode. The Doctor and Donna are a pleasure to watch, but the episode was too preachy about a subject that 99% of the population agrees with. That, plus I donít really like the Ood that much. I loved the Satan Pit episodes, but not really because of the Ood. Sorry for the short review, but yeah.
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