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How do you get Genuine and Vintage weapons?

#1anima456Posted 5/16/2011 11:56:34 AM
Apart from trading...

And how did everyone get these vintage weapons in the first place?

Also, do they do anything interested or is it just a different coloured name?
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#2computuguruPosted 5/16/2011 12:11:22 PM
Vintage and Genuine weapons have the exact same statistic in game as non-vintage weapons.

Blue-text vintage status was imbued with the Mann-Conomy update on September 30th, 2010. Per the Team Fortress 2 Wiki (wiki.teamfortress.com):

As the update was introduced, all of the items which were previously obtained became "Vintage Items". Their name is now rendered blue, and the "Vintage" prefix was added to their name. According to Valve, "some items that used to be rare will become more common when they are available for purchase. (...) This way, those older rare items remain rare (in fact, they're even rarer, because they're limited editions now). Some exceptions were promotional items, including but not limited to the Cheater's Lament, Alien Swarm Parasite, Lumbricus Lid, Mildly Disturbing Halloween Mask, Bill's Hat, Ghastly Gibus, and Earbuds, as well as all the medals and craft materials."

Green-text genuine quality items were first introduced with the Rift promotion on February 3, 2011.

These items are only worth more because they rarer and thus are a status symbol. Valve's incompetence also contributed to skyrocketing prices for certain vintage items due to a bug and then a problematic second vintage-distribution:

First, due to a glitch with Valve Support, some promotional items that had been restored became Vintage quality items. This is how Vintage Bill's Hats and Vintage Earbuds etc were created.

Second, any weapons that were added and then crafted but not traded between the Australian Christmas update (December 17, 2010 and the March 15, 2011 patch were converted to Vintage quality. This is because Valve reduced the crafting costs for those weapons. Of course the higher price allowed earlier access to these weapons so that perhaps should have been sufficient reward. Some were angered that their Genuine quality item equivalents are now less rare than these "new vintages."

Full details on item quality can be found here: http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Quality

To see a full set of the original vintage weapons and every genuine item released in the game thus far feel free to review my backpack:
http://www.tf2b.com/profiles/76561197994586536
#3computuguruPosted 5/16/2011 12:16:08 PM
I forgot to mention. Genuine quality items are promotional version of the items given to those who buy the associated game on Steam. A current example is the Witcher 2 pre-order on Steam will net you three promotional items.

A full list of promotional items, past and present, can be found here: http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Promotional_items

Genuine status was only granted beginning with the Rift promotion. Previous items either retain their non-vintage status or were given vintage status depending on Valve's whim. Ex. Lugermorphs from their first Sam & Max promotion became vintage. Killing Floor items for those who had owned the game previously were also given as vintage. Almost all store-granted promo items are tradable after the pre-order period ends but achievement items (such as those from Poker Night) are genrally not.
#4Paradox_muchPosted 5/16/2011 12:17:02 PM
By using the wiki.
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#5anima456(Topic Creator)Posted 5/16/2011 12:25:43 PM
So how much is a vintage weapon worth?
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#6tiomastaPosted 5/16/2011 12:34:39 PM
anima456 posted...
So how much is a vintage weapon worth?

Depends. Most old ones go for a scrap or two (since practically everyone has them). While the Vintage Crit-a-cola and the newer vintages (like the shogun items) are worth much more.

But you shouldn't really be interested in getting one of those.
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#7anima456(Topic Creator)Posted 5/16/2011 12:37:23 PM
So could you do a trade like this;

I wanted a vintage Your eternal reward...

So I give the guy whose giving me a vintage Eternal reward a NON vintage YER and a scrap?

Would that be a fair trade?
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#8DarkspineZeroPosted 5/16/2011 1:34:47 PM(edited)
Vintage eternal rewards don't exist.

Edited for initial derp.
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#9anima456(Topic Creator)Posted 5/16/2011 1:03:54 PM
What? You mean vintage eternal rewards don't exist?

Okay, then replace the YER with some other weapon like the equalizer.
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#10arleasPosted 5/16/2011 3:17:12 PM
anima456 posted...
What? You mean vintage eternal rewards don't exist?

Okay, then replace the YER with some other weapon like the equalizer.


I've got some vintage weapons just sitting in my backpack. If you want to trade me a weapon + scrap for each of them send me a PM... I've got a vintage Ambassador, Scottish Resistance and Scotsman's Skullcutter, Axtinguisher, Targe, And Ubersaw.

So basically 2 reclaimed (6 scrap) + 6 random weapons.

If nothing else you could use those in future trades for maybe something better... I'm just not the type to go asking everyone if they want to trade.
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