Team Fortress 2

Hello everyone, I've been having an argument with one of my friends regarding what weapons are best on which classes. He has his opinions, moreso in the fact saying every weapon is good, people play for fun and I shouldn't have this elitist mindset.. I am looking to start competitive TF2 however and I'd like to shut him up and show him other people's opinions so here's my thoughts.


Scout
Primary: Scattergun
Secondary: Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol or Mad Milk
Melee: Sandman or Atomizer

- The Scattergun's great for pretty much any situation. I don't think anyone's disputing that. I find that the Soda Popper can work fairly well with some of his other weapons, after all, mini-crits on demand? That's always good.
- PBPP and Mad Milk are both great choices for a scout as well, but I don't think they're set in stone as the best ones. Although situational, BONK! Atomic Punch has some use for getting past heavily guarded or trafficked areas and either getting past sentry nests or distracting them for your team to aim at.
- As for the melees, Sandman's awesome. The HP loss hurts, but you're often dead when you're hit anyways. I, personally, have never understood the love for the Atomizer. Yeah, you get extra mobility, but at the cost of hurting yourself for the 3rd jump. Great if you have a pocket medic with the Quickfix (Lol) or have spare overheal to burn, though. I find some use in the Candy Cane, personally. A small HP pack on kill may not seem like a lot, but it can save both you and your team from stuff like Afterburn, or give them that last bit of HP needed to not die from a random hit. Of course, there's the issue of the enemies using the packs...

Soldier
Primary: Rocket Launcher or Direct Hit (if you can aim)
Secondary: Shotgun
Melee: Escape Plan

- Rocket Launcher's the most basic launcher, and it's arguably the best one as well. I find the Direct Hit to be a bit of a downgrade most of the time. What you do hit, you either kill or deal massive damage to, but the loss of splash damage hurts a lot. Basically, it removes most of the margin of error in aiming, in exchange for massive damage and a speed increase. As most of us don't have perfect tracking, it's a lot harder to fully use to it's full ability. That, and if someone that has a more random movement pattern? Sucks to be you. I love using the Black Box. The loss of a rocket is regretful at times, but the health on hit works wonders if you don't stay with the team as much, or wander.
- The Shotgun works, but it's main use is against pyros that know how to airblast, IMO. I like to use the Gunboats. It gives you SO much more mobility for the loss of some secondary damage. The Buff Banner has uses for staying with the team and boosting them, though.
- Escape Plan. Anything else is wrong.

Pyro/Pybro
Primary: Degreaser/Degreaser
Secondary: Flare Gun/Reserve Shooter or Scorch Shot
Melee: Axtinguisher/Homewrecker

- Degreaser's pretty much the best flamethrower for Pyro.
- Flare Gun's awesome, but the RS and the SS are situational. The RS is good in the hands of someone that can airblast well, but you lose damage against people farther away. SS's good against crowds of enemies amd for screwing with the other team's brains, but of little use otherwise. I recommend the Shotgun as an alternative to the RS and SS. More consistent for damaging.
- Axtinguisher perfect on all loadouts for Pyro. As for Pybro, the Homewrecker is perfect.

Demoman/Demoknight
Primary: Grenade Launcher/Loch and Load
Secondary: Sticky Bomb Launcher/Splendid Screen
Melee: Ullapool Caber/Eyelander

- Not much for me to argue with here. Stock, Stock, Caber's great all the time.
- LL, SS, and Eyelander is probably the best loudout for demoknighting as well. LL for burst damage when needed, SS for the crit boosted charge, and Eyelander for heads.

Hello everyone, I've been having an argument with one of my friends regarding what weapons are best on which classes. He has his opinions, moreso in the fact saying every weapon is good, people play for fun and I shouldn't have this elitist mindset.. I am looking to start competitive TF2 however and I'd like to shut him up and show him other people's opinions so here's my thoughts.

Heavy
Primary: Minigun
Secondary: Sandvich
Melee: Gloves of Running Urgently

- This is all a Heavy needs. I love trolling with the Holiday Punch, though.

Engineer(defense)/Engineer(offense)
Primary: Shotgun/Frontier Justice or Widowmaker (if you can aim)
Secondary: Wrangler/Pistol
Melee: Southern Hospitality/Gunslinger

- On the primary side, it depends on what you're trying to do. The Shotgun's a good all-rounder, though. Even though it's been nerfed to hell and back, the Pompson 6000's still good for spamming and harassment as well.
- If your sentries are getting destroyed a lot, or you're running the Gunslinger, use the FJ. If you're focused on defense a bit more, I'd recommend using the Jag. Sure, you have a damage penalty, but it won't matter too much if you're smart about spychecking, or are more worried about setting up a quick defense.
- The Wrangler's a great tool. -66% damage taken, 2x fire rate, and increased rocket rate? Not to mention the aim-assist on it. The Pistol's ok, I guess. Better used on combat engies IMO.

Medic(offense)/Medic(defense)
Primary: Overdose/Crusader's Crossbow
Secondary: Medigun/Kritzkrieg
Melee: Ubersaw/Amputator

- Overdose is by far his best overall IMO. The X-Bow is good if you can aim fairly well as a medic, but you lose on the immediate self-defense when you're attacked.
- As for the Medigun vs Kritzkrieg debate, I like the Kritzkrieg a bit more. It charges a bit faster, and full crit ammo is a awesome thing to have. The Medigun's most helpful when you're being camped, hard. Or when you're going up against a monster sentry nest that no amount of crits will destroy. It's just slightly less useful overall, IMO.
- Ubersaw is the best melee, bar none. The Amputator's good with the set bonus, and it's taunt is handy, but you have to rely on your team to keep you safe while taunting.

Sniper
Primary: Sniper Rifle
Secondary: Jarate
Melee: Bushwhacka

- Depending on how well you can get headshots, the Bazaar Bargain can be better for use.
- Jarate and the Bushwhacka are the best in their slots as well, especially paired together.

Spy
Primary: Enforcer or Ambassador (if you can aim)
Cloak: Dead Ringer or Invis watch
Melee: Knife or Spycicle
Sapper: Red Tape Recorder

- Pretty much this. RTR's perfect for getting rid of those fortified nests.
- DR's great for getting through heavily contested areas, and if it's used when you've been hit a few times, it makes the "death" much more believeable. The Cloak and Dagger's alright as well. Granted, most of the CnD users are too busy parking themselves in corners to be useful, but it can be helpful if a spy uses it to scout out the other team and give information about them. Invis watch works fairly well in most situations.
- The Knife and Spycicle are the best for spy. Knife has no reasons for not using it, while the downside on the Spycicle is minor most of the time, plus it gives you a few seconds worth of buffer if you get a random puff of flame to hit you to get the hell out of harm's way.
- The Enforcer's good for when you get caught and need to get back to your team, or just spamming while undisguised like so many of the fail-spies I see. Ambassador's deadly in the hand of a spy that can aim. I am leagues more afraid of an Ambassador spy that can aim than any sniper (Bar aimhackers/ God-tier snipers), just due to the fact that they can be anywhere and snipe ya.

Hello everyone, I've been having an argument with one of my friends regarding what weapons are best on which classes. He has his opinions, moreso in the fact saying every weapon is good, people play for fun and I shouldn't have this elitist mindset.. I am looking to start competitive TF2 however and I'd like to shut him up and show him other people's opinions so here's my thoughts.