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Discuss the Miniscule Balance: Heavy

#1TectonicImprovPosted 7/20/2013 11:34:27 AM(edited)
Overpowered
Soda Popper
G.R.U.
Pomson 6000
Enforcer
Red-Tape Recorder
Spy-cicle

Overbalanced
Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol
Sandman
Atomizer
Phlogistonator
Flare Gun
Loch-n-Load
Loose Cannon
Sticky Launcher
Ullapool Caber
Minigun
Tomislav
Huo-Long Heater
Southern Hospitality
Hitman's Heatmaker
Jarate
Bushwacka

Balanced
Scattergun
Shortstop
Pistol (both classes)
Bonk! Atomic Punch
Crit-a-Cola
Mad Milk
Flying Guillotine
Boston Basher
Candy Cane
Wrap Assassin
Rocket Launcher
Direct Hit
The Original
Beggar's Bazooka
Shotgun (Soldier/Pyro/Engineer)
Buff Banner
Battalion's Backup
Gunboats
Escape Plan
Market Gardener
Pain Train (both classes)
Disciplinary Action
Degreaser
Detonator
Axtinguisher
Homewrecker
Back Scratcher
Powerjack
Grenade Launcher
Scottish Resistance
Sticky Jumper
Bottle
Eyelander
Half-Zatoichi (Demo)
Sandvich
K.G.B.
Fists of Steel
Holiday Punch
Frontier Justice
Widowmaker
Wrench
Eureka Effect
PDA+Buildings
Crusader's Crossbow
Syringe Gun
Blutsauger
Overdose
Medigun
Kritzkrieg
Bonesaw
Ubersaw
Vita-Saw
Solemn Vow
Amputator
Sniper Rifle
Huntsman
Sydney Sleeper
Machina
SMG
Cleaner's Carbine
Shahanshah
Tribalman's Shiv
Kukri
Revolver
Ambassador
Sapper
Knife
Your Eternal Reward
Invisibility Watch
Disguise Kit
Cloak and Dagger

Underbalanced
Force-a-Nature
Baby Face's Blaster
Holy Mackerel
Black Box
Cow Mangler 5000
Rocket Jumper
Reserve Shooter (Soldier)
Righteous Bison
Concheror
Flamethrower
Backburner
Manmelter
Reserve Shooter
Neon Annihilator
Splendid Screen
Chargin' Targe
Persian Persuader
Natascha
Brass Beast
Shotgun (Heavy)
Family Business
Jag
Diamondback

Underpowered
Winger
Sun-On-A-Stick
Fan O'War
Bat
Liberty Launcher
Mantreads
Shovel
Equalizer
Half-Zatoichi (Soldier)
Scorch Shot
Fire Axe
Third Degree
Sharpened Volcano Fragment
Ali Baba's Wee Booties
Scotsman's Skullcutter
Claidheamh Mor
Fists
Warrior's Spirit
Eviction Notice
Razorback
Big Earner
Conniver's Kunai

Out of all the changes Heavy got the least changes that actually effected anything.

The Steak Sandvich now takes/gives 25% more damage instead of Mini-crits like the Crit-a-Cola but you're still confined to your melee. Pretty lame, underpowered.

The Dalokohs Bar heals more per munch, it's a little better, but I don't think I'd ever use it over the Sandvich, underpowered.
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#2TitanStrikePosted 7/20/2013 11:56:59 AM
What you said.
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#3Intro1827Posted 7/20/2013 12:05:20 PM
TectonicImprov posted...
Out of all the changes Heavy got the least changes that actually effected anything.


Pyro
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#4BakedStuffEtcPosted 7/20/2013 12:33:23 PM
Dalokoh's is still underpowered

Steakvich is underbalanced. It can still be thrown, and it opens up different melee options if you need to rollout but want the FoS for something
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#5TectonicImprov(Topic Creator)Posted 7/20/2013 12:35:46 PM
Intro1827 posted...
TectonicImprov posted...
Out of all the changes Heavy got the least changes that actually effected anything.


Pyro


Pyro lost an entire set (Heavy lost the Hibernating Bear too but just like with the EO set who really cares) and got a melee reworked. The Targe buff also affected him too although on a secondary level.

Oh, and uh the Phlog got a little fix too I guess.
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#6CaioNVPosted 7/20/2013 12:50:49 PM
BakedStuffEtc posted...
Dalokoh's is still underpowered

Steakvich is underbalanced. It can still be thrown, and it opens up different melee options if you need to rollout but want the FoS for something

This, and if you get the enemy by surprise, B.S.S. works well with the K.G.B.. Of course, this is situational and only works against... Players that aren't really good.
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#7TectonicImprov(Topic Creator)Posted 7/20/2013 1:24:11 PM
BakedStuffEtc posted...
Dalokoh's is still underpowered

Steakvich is underbalanced. It can still be thrown, and it opens up different melee options if you need to rollout but want the FoS for something


I actually totally forgot you could still throw the steakvich.
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#8halomonkey1_3_5Posted 7/20/2013 1:47:28 PM
BakedStuffEtc posted...
Dalokoh's is still underpowered

Steakvich is underbalanced. It can still be thrown, and it opens up different melee options if you need to rollout but want the FoS for something

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#9SiegedEaglePosted 7/20/2013 4:38:21 PM
Why is the Chargin' Targe underbalanced? I'm very certain it had 5 votes for Balanced, 3 for UB and one for OB.

As for the Sandvich wannabe secondaries...

Dalokohs: Underpowered for reasons stated already and because I haven't taken enough time to use it in normal play and judge, and probably never will. However, it's still the best secondary for MvM. At least, that is what I think. But we're not discussing MvM balanced on this thread!

BSS: Underbalanced. Only good for dumb fun, but otherwise very impractical. Though I'm glad I now only take extra damage instead of minicrits while under its effects.
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