Which is the best Raiding Mage spec?

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User Info: Slasher900

Slasher900
4 years ago#1
I've seen frost mages putting out 100k DPS and I've seen Fire Mages putting out 100k DPS.
So which is best of the Mages? I've seen Arcane Mages doing 75k+

Also during 5.1 they are adding a Cool down to Pyroblast. Do you guys think that will affect Fire Mages a lot?
IF Fire Mages are now the top DPS.... Will Frost become top because of Pyroblast getting a Cool down?
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User Info: Nfan42991

Nfan42991
4 years ago#2
I think the order is Frost > Fire > Arcane, with Frost and Fire being close at the top and Arcane a few notches down.

I'm not sure which I like the best, but they're all pretty fun and somewhat (more) difficult than before.
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User Info: Right_Chus_1

Right_Chus_1
4 years ago#3
Fire is drastically higher than frost and arcane is the second worst spec in the entire game if this thing is accurate at all..


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User Info: Elaeus

Elaeus
4 years ago#4
I believe the added cd to pyroblast will have an effect but afaik haste is now a good stat for fire and it affects the cd of PB.

Fire and frost are not that different for now but I see frost being more reliable and giving better result to my group.
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User Info: Nightbird_X

Nightbird_X
4 years ago#5
The CD to Pyroblast supposedly won't affect Fire as it is lowered by Haste; Blues say it was only added because of PvP.
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User Info: bdavis93

bdavis93
4 years ago#6
Frost does about the best when you first hit 90, but as you get more gear(and more gear with crit!) fire begins to be better than frost because it scales better.

User Info: Halo Eight

Halo Eight
4 years ago#7
Nightbird_X posted...
The CD to Pyroblast supposedly won't affect Fire as it is lowered by Haste; Blues say it was only added because of PvP.


Yeah, people are whining about Deep Freeze/Shatter Pyroblast chaining. Kind of limits Alter Time a bit for the spec, which is lame since Frost can store Fingers of Frost and Brain Freeze procs.

PVE I guess it should be ok since you naturally want to start a fireball cast after a Pyro, but Presence of Mind Ignite building is going to suffer. We'll have to see how it effects combustion.
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User Info: Nightbird_X

Nightbird_X
4 years ago#8
Halo Eight posted...
Nightbird_X posted...
The CD to Pyroblast supposedly won't affect Fire as it is lowered by Haste; Blues say it was only added because of PvP.


Yeah, people are whining about Deep Freeze/Shatter Pyroblast chaining. Kind of limits Alter Time a bit for the spec, which is lame since Frost can store Fingers of Frost and Brain Freeze procs.

PVE I guess it should be ok since you naturally want to start a fireball cast after a Pyro, but Presence of Mind Ignite building is going to suffer. We'll have to see how it effects combustion.


Really, they should have seen this in Beta anyways. I knew it was a possible problem, hence why I went PoM Fire on my Mage. No AP, but it's a "better" 3-sec nuker like in Vanilla. I liked that PoM-AP-Pyro play style..
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