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so are mages crappy now or is it just a lot of whiners?

#1MarzPosted 12/2/2012 7:38:51 AM
following this patch, I was creepin' the wow forums, their mage section specifically. I know there's lots of melodramatic people with TL;DR walls of texts saying how they're quitting wow or re-rolling. and there's a lot of people saying they've been nerfed too critically. but then there's others saying it's not a big deal at all.

is it a big deal pvp wise? is it mostly pvp? or pve as well? or are they still the great class they've been toted as, just a bit less great? I'd like to give frost a whirl at end-game, but wondering if lock or spriest would be better.
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#2BlackSparrow14Posted 12/2/2012 8:27:13 AM
Mages imo are just experiencing their down time in this patch like most of the other classes at some point. Fire's combustion nerf along with the critical mass nerf was just horrible. I'm not too sure how it competes with frost now but frost just didn't scale as well with gear as fire last patch, so it isn't exactly the top spec atm. Both are probably still viable, it's just a shame how some hybrid dps classes can outdps mages now.
#3Aposter26Posted 12/2/2012 8:29:13 AM
Love my fire mage, always will. Every class goes through down periods.
#4Marz(Topic Creator)Posted 12/2/2012 8:37:50 AM
their dps seems to still be legit according to this possibly untrusting chart:

http://www.noxxic.com/wow/dps-rankings

on a half related note so as to not create another topic:
tailoring and BS: good choices if doin' up some pvp? was gonna do eng. but heard you can't stack it on other on-uses and other crap.
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#5shawn10000000Posted 12/2/2012 8:43:13 AM
no decent frost mage is complaining. they still lol people with deep freeze frost bomb then fire blast instant explode for 200k+
for pve idk
#6TloyaPosted 12/2/2012 9:47:20 AM
They're doing fine in PvP. They're not the most broken ridiculous class as people have accused them of being in the past (that's now warriors), but they still have awesome control and awesome burst.

Their PvE DPS is also really good, it's just that the traditionally faceroll arcane spec was made substantially more complex and nerfed a bit and so people are QQing
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#7Lightning BoltPosted 12/2/2012 9:50:08 AM
Mages are fine, but they're extremely clunky and unfun now. Not sure how people put up with it tbh.
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#8BobTDonutPosted 12/2/2012 9:58:42 AM
Fire Mages are the ones complaining, and for good reason. They went from competitive/top DPS to the bottom of the charts. I can understand nerfing them, especially since their damage gets crazy on any form of cleave fights, but that is ridiculous. I mean right now it seems like they have to go back to Arcane Blast spamming on a single target to do any sort of real DPS.
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#9Marz(Topic Creator)Posted 12/2/2012 10:08:50 AM
Lightning Bolt posted...
Mages are fine, but they're extremely clunky and unfun now. Not sure how people put up with it tbh.


what makes them "clunky"? I hear this word thrown around quite a bit. and unfun in what sense?
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#10tote_allPosted 12/2/2012 10:10:27 AM
From: Marz | #004
their dps seems to still be legit according to this possibly untrusting chart:

http://www.noxxic.com/wow/dps-rankings

on a half related note so as to not create another topic:
tailoring and BS: good choices if doin' up some pvp? was gonna do eng. but heard you can't stack it on other on-uses and other crap.


Shaman is up top, so it must be wrong.