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Dal is neutral?

#1cpo335Posted 1/25/2013 9:18:20 AM
I've heard that Dal is neutral and that it is Alliance.

However if it is aligned with the Alliance (strictly because Garrosh is in charge), then what's the deal with Northrend? The city itself allows Horde to enter? If the Kirin Tor was allied with the Alliance, why allow the Horde toi base troops in its vicinity?
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#2HakPosted 1/25/2013 9:19:29 AM
http://www.wowpedia.org/Dalaran
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#3MegaSlushPosted 1/25/2013 9:40:27 AM(edited)
Plotwise: Dalaran USED to be neutral, but it's becoming Alliance territory due to the (seemingly) treasonous Horde-serving Sunreavers.

As for why it's neutral in Norhrend: The same reason all the quests there are still behaving as if the LK is still a threat. It's just a different time period.

Dalaran was only "purged" this patch.
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#4nanojatePosted 1/25/2013 10:19:34 AM
Quick question, I've only played Alliance this patch, up through the Dal horde purging thing. How does the storyline playout for the Horde? Cuz they got us Alliance like, messing the sunreavers up..
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#5Lightning BoltPosted 1/25/2013 10:24:56 AM
From: nanojate | #004
How does the storyline playout for the Horde?

Basically Jaina went crazy and started being a *****, so we knocked some heads together and helped the sunreavers escape.
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#6MegaSlushPosted 1/25/2013 10:25:37 AM
I haven't really played the game - I just read the quests for both sides (and comments).
As for the Horde, they DO help with whatever happens in Darnassus (won't say what), which is when Jaina decides enough is enough and begins the "purge."
While Alliance characters slow/kill the Sunreavers (who are, apparently, guilty), Horde players help them escape, since they apparently aren't involved with Garrosh's orders. The ones that weren't being imprisoned died because they fought back.

Essentially, both sides are partially wrong. Jaina was a bit overzealous with her cleaning up, yet Aethas Sunreaver chose to ignore the Horde's abuse of the Kirin Tor's neutrality.

...or something.
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#7pres_madagascarPosted 1/25/2013 10:34:13 AM
MegaSlush posted...
I haven't really played the game - I just read the quests for both sides (and comments).
As for the Horde, they DO help with whatever happens in Darnassus (won't say what), which is when Jaina decides enough is enough and begins the "purge."
While Alliance characters slow/kill the Sunreavers (who are, apparently, guilty), Horde players help them escape, since they apparently aren't involved with Garrosh's orders. The ones that weren't being imprisoned died because they fought back.

Essentially, both sides are partially wrong. Jaina was a bit overzealous with her cleaning up, yet Aethas Sunreaver chose to ignore the Horde's abuse of the Kirin Tor's neutrality.

...or something.


More or less.
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#8ss5joshuaPosted 1/27/2013 2:33:32 AM
Spoilers below!

In a nutshell, most of the issues occur in the newest Warcraft book. Garrosh blows up Theramore, but his massacre is made all the more deadly due to the fact that a Sunreaver betrays Jaina and allows the Horde to enter one of the gates into Theramore. This allows the Horde to march into the city and start slaughtering everyone. The Horde scenario for Theramore actually has you go into the city just before the bomb goes off to specifically rescue the guy. This is what starts Jaina's distrust of the Sunreavers.

During the Horde dailies in Krasarang, you get the assistance of the Sunreavers to invade Darnassus and steal the artifact that they're hiding from Garrosh. Jaina finds out that the Sunreavers helped the Horde again with something that will put the Alliance at an extreme disadvantage and threaten a lot of lives, so she begins purging the Sunreavers from Dalaran.
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#9ElaeusPosted 1/27/2013 3:27:53 AM
THe Dalaran you see in Northrend ingame is the Dalaran in WotLK days. It wasn't updated because Northrend content didn't get any update and therefore it is completely out of time line. When you go to the Dalaran in Northrend at the moment you are living the Lich King expansion days, not the current days (that is about five or six years ago in lore).

Sucks from Blizzard, really. When you make a lv1 character, let's say an orc, you are starting shortly after the Shattering of Deathwing, then at lv60 you go BACK IN TIME to Illidan's days, then at lv70 to Northrend in Arthas' days, then for lv80-85 to the same timeline as 1-60, then the current timeline is 85-90. Yep, Blizzard sucks HARD about bonding the time lines together.
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#10willythemailboyPosted 1/27/2013 7:26:17 AM
Elaeus posted...
THe Dalaran you see in Northrend ingame is the Dalaran in WotLK days. It wasn't updated because Northrend content didn't get any update and therefore it is completely out of time line. When you go to the Dalaran in Northrend at the moment you are living the Lich King expansion days, not the current days (that is about five or six years ago in lore).

Sucks from Blizzard, really. When you make a lv1 character, let's say an orc, you are starting shortly after the Shattering of Deathwing, then at lv60 you go BACK IN TIME to Illidan's days, then at lv70 to Northrend in Arthas' days, then for lv80-85 to the same timeline as 1-60, then the current timeline is 85-90. Yep, Blizzard sucks HARD about bonding the time lines together.


The alternative would be to entirely lock new characters out of old content and making new 58-80 content for them to do as an alternative. Treating the old expansions as continent-sized caverns of time is the better solution, even if it seems pretty silly on the face of it.
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