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Why Are Most MMOs Called WoW Clones and Not EQ Clone or DAOC Clone...Etc...

#1InfestedAdamPosted 1/29/2013 9:57:15 AM
From my understanding yay back Blizzard essentially took the best of past MMOs while leaving out the painful grinding stuff. With it's already large fanbase, casualish nature (compared to past MMOs) and low system requirements its popularity skyrocketed.

And of course ever since then many of other newer MMOs are called out as WoW clones (or WoW killers) In some cases I think it is true and in other cases I think it's just fans ranting. What I don't truly understand is what unique aspect did WoW introduced to the MMO market that justify other MMOs as being clones.

Certain aspects are typical of MMOs while others I feel are simply based on other MMOs. Is it fair to call some newer MMOs as WoW clones when WoW itself took aspects from past MMOs and improved upon them. Should newer MMOs simply be called EQ clones instead....?

My own experience with MMOs is limited to only WoW and after so I can't say I have a good understanding of MMOs evolution. What I know of EQ is limited to only videos and stories I've heard from guildmates.

So for MMOs veterans, are people calling out newer MMOs as WoW clone actually justifiable when WoW itself took aspects from other MMOs?

Comments and opinions are appreciated,

Thank you.
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#2angrywalrus13Posted 1/29/2013 10:00:21 AM
Because WoW is the most popular MMO and it's what people think of first. Not a very complex answer at all.
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#3Wyrmwarrior5Posted 1/29/2013 10:01:57 AM
The same reason why people called every FPS "Halo clones" for a while despite FPS's existing for years before Halo.
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#4airshippilot911Posted 1/29/2013 10:03:52 AM
Halo was the first FPS ever made, fact.

It pretty much invented video games to be honest.
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#5InfestedAdam(Topic Creator)Posted 1/29/2013 10:14:01 AM
Having such a narrow point of view just seems like a poor reason to call a game a clone of something, in my opinion.

I can understand using it as a reference due to it's popularity, mention WoW as an example and I'm sure most gamers will get it. Mention EQ to maybe some of the younger gamers and I'll have doubts all of them will know what EQ is.....just an assumption.

But to actually believe a newer game is a clone or something despite the history behind a game just seems like a case of ignorance....from a gaming point of view. That's not to say everyone should know the history of all games but rather before people bust out the torches and pitchfolks outta at least know they're ranting for the right reasons......if that makes sense...
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#6piplupzeroPosted 1/29/2013 10:30:38 AM
airshippilot911 posted...
Halo was the first FPS ever made, fact.

It pretty much invented video games to be honest.


Dont lie (insert homophobic slur here) call of duty invented that. They invented guns and even war just to make their game the greatest ever. Heck, electricity was invented just so we could play cod
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#7Skeletal_KingPosted 1/29/2013 11:19:03 AM
It's because their UI and the way they handle... Well, everything. Is basically an exact copy of WoW.

I can think of 2 examples right off the bat.
Lord Of The Rings Online
Runes of Magic

Their UIs are practically a carbon copy of WoW's, same with the way they handle questing and everything.

Wyrmwarrior5 posted...
The same reason why people called every FPS "Halo clones" for a while despite FPS's existing for years before Halo.


It's a fair comparison when they try to copy Halo. Halo was the first game to popularize regenerating health/shields, and the 2 weapon swap system. Very few, if any, tried those systems before and they didn't really catch on until Halo popularized it.

Was it the first? No. It wasn't.
The real issue is that they POPULARIZED it.
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#8DairycowsPosted 1/29/2013 11:21:23 AM
InfestedAdam posted...
Having such a narrow point of view just seems like a poor reason to call a game a clone of something, in my opinion.

I can understand using it as a reference due to it's popularity, mention WoW as an example and I'm sure most gamers will get it. Mention EQ to maybe some of the younger gamers and I'll have doubts all of them will know what EQ is.....just an assumption.

But to actually believe a newer game is a clone or something despite the history behind a game just seems like a case of ignorance....from a gaming point of view. That's not to say everyone should know the history of all games but rather before people bust out the torches and pitchfolks outta at least know they're ranting for the right reasons......if that makes sense...


While that may all be factually correct, it doesn't matter one bit when it comes to large groups of people labeling something. WoW was (and still relatively is) wildly popular. More people know what it is than any other MMO, so they use it as a reference.

There being another game that should set the precedent means nothing when it comes to this sort of thing. As you said yourself, the majority of gamers either do not know or care to little about EQ and it's ilk to even consider it when labeling future or current games.

Also, this term is actually correct in some scenarios. After seeing WoW's success many publishers decided they would try their hand at the MMO market and thus came a constant stream of MMOs designed to emulate WoW's model.

So while it wasn't the first to implement the majority of the systems it uses, it's success is the reason for so many of these MMO "clones" popping up in a short span of time.

In the end a label like this relative for the most part, and I don't see any issue with how it is commonly used.
#9OniLink5000Posted 1/29/2013 12:35:10 PM
Oreos are a generic brand
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#10dakotah1978Posted 1/29/2013 12:37:38 PM
Yay back.
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