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So... Horde is the Evil side now eh?

#31TetsujiinPosted 2/24/2013 4:20:00 PM
The Alliance has two midget races. The Horde has one midget race.

Think about it.
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#32CanadaTopPosted 2/24/2013 4:26:17 PM
horde corrupted due to their own lust for power by drinking the demon blood on draenor

they proceed to **** up their own homeworld and invade azeroth

immediately start slaughtering natives left and right to conquer land that isnt theirs

get their faces smashed in, army destroyed, survivors captured

cry because the people they were trying to exterminate have the gall to put them into internment camps, as if the benevolent alliance wasn't being kind by refusing to outright off the rest of them

Your mary sue metzen self-insert doesn't change anything
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#33Sephiroth C RyuPosted 2/24/2013 4:34:57 PM
The evil side is Garosh. And the Forsaken. The rest of the horde is fine and dandy.

Seriously, if Blizz hadn't made them a player race, I don't think the forsaken would be part of the Horde anymore.
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#34Wyrmwarrior5Posted 2/24/2013 4:39:42 PM(edited)
CanadaTop posted...
horde corrupted due to their own lust for power by drinking the demon blood on draenor

they proceed to **** up their own homeworld and invade azeroth

immediately start slaughtering natives left and right to conquer land that isnt theirs

get their faces smashed in, army destroyed, survivors captured

cry because the people they were trying to exterminate have the gall to put them into internment camps, as if the benevolent alliance wasn't being kind by refusing to outright off the rest of them

Your mary sue metzen self-insert doesn't change anything


No, the Horde did not do those things. The Orcs did.

Also,
Sephiroth C Ryu posted...
The evil side is Garosh. And the Forsaken. The rest of the horde is fine and dandy.

Seriously, if Blizz hadn't made them a player race, I don't think the forsaken would be part of the Horde anymore.


Honestly I don't think it's really too fair to say the entire group of the Forsaken is evil. Sylvanas is decidedly starting to get on the evil side, yes, but I feel like the individuals of the Forsaken aren't evil. I kind of see them as like the Trolls/Tauren, where really they just want to find their own place in the world, only it's even more difficult for them since they're even more stigmatized. Yes there are plenty of evil Forsaken, but I think as a whole they're more just lost and looking for a purpose. None of them decided to be Undead, after all, and all of them have been rejected by all of the people they once knew.
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#35Sephiroth C RyuPosted 2/24/2013 5:32:02 PM
Forsaken players tend to get "forced" to be more questionable in morals though, should you hang out with them and their quest lines.

Yeah, technically, they get the choice on whether to accept being undead or not. But naturally you don't actually get to MAKE that choice, short of deleting the character or not rolling it in the first place.
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#36MajinUltimaPosted 2/24/2013 7:47:25 PM
Coop14 posted...
Woah woah Majin nice biases going on in your post.
In the words of Metzen both sides are equally good and evil.
Anyone who try's to argue this is ignorant.

--Thrall is Metzen's own author avatar in-universe and has had a huge bias for Orcs for years. What I said wasn't bias, it was simple fact.

- Most Battlegrounds are Horde forces attacking native Alliance. Even Thrall's "good" Frostwolf Clan is attacking the native defenders of Alterac Valley.

- Outland was saved largely through the efforts of the Sha'tar (Draenei) and the Alliance holdouts from WC2 (Alleria, Turalyon, and Kurdran Wildhammer's forces), whereas the Orcs had been the ones to turn the place into a dump to begin with. The Draenei were foreign exiles to Outland but things were fine until the Orcs decided to worship demons.

- Azeroth is the Alliance's world, primarily, with only the more good/neutral and less invested Horde races (Trolls Tauren and Blood Elves, later Goblins) being native races. Orcs are still alien invaders, and the Forsaken are largely as evil and genocidal as the Scourge (just ask Gilneas and Southshore about plague bombs and raising the undead).

- In Pandaria, the main warmongerer is Garrosh, leader of the Horde. Varian and the Alliance set course for Pandaria to rescue Anduin, who likewise got along well with Sunwalker Dezco.

- Jaina's frequent overtures of peace were responded to by nuking Theramore, thanks Horde. Even if Thrall is generally good, it doesn't excuse constant orc-fueled aggression.
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#37tiger002Posted 2/24/2013 8:24:00 PM
I'd say Horde is more evil, but both sides have both good and evil in them.
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#38jenraisPosted 2/24/2013 8:39:31 PM
So I can end this now



Spoilers



Garrosh is being controlled by a sha
#39Wyrmwarrior5Posted 2/24/2013 8:40:18 PM
jenrais posted...
So I can end this now



Spoilers



Garrosh is being controlled by a sha


It's a wonder how he managed to controlled by a Sha before he even set foot on Pandaria and the Sha were unleashed, isn't it?
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#40Linkmaster2k3Posted 2/24/2013 9:09:28 PM
I feel alliance is more evil simply because they think of themselves as the good guys, yet butchered every woman and child in Camp Taurajo and took no pow's.
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