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Immune Fire Zombies?

#1SnugRexPosted 12/2/2012 3:31:11 PM
I picked this game up again the other day for some nostalgia fun and i just reached the Urssa lava caves when i ran into a slight issue.

The first time i played this i remember throwing on Ice Blade and laughing as i ripped things apart throughout the cave. However this time when i run into Fire zombies i do no damage at all with or with out Ice Blade activated, not even mp damage, i dont remember this at all.

My teammates can still kill them with ease but i have to just run circles around the battle field like an idiot till they do. Just wondering if there were always immune or if it is another factor. I'm using the Rune Blade at the moment, going to try and change that now and see if that is somehow a factor at all. Though i don't see why it would be.
#2SnugRex(Topic Creator)Posted 12/2/2012 4:20:32 PM
Well i answered my own question, apparently the rune blade has no effect on some monsters...good to know
#3Mad_CartoonistPosted 12/2/2012 6:01:26 PM
I'm pretty sure those guys have stupidly high DEF.
Since the base damage calculation is something along the lines of ATK - DEF, your attacks all do 0 damage, even though you have elemental weakness multipliers.
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#4pendellPosted 12/4/2012 10:10:55 AM
With respect, I think rune blade works on everything. Rune blade is a normal weapon with the effect of sometimes releasing balls of light which also work on everything.

I think the last poster hit it -- the creatures in Urssa Lava caves have high DEF, and your ATK must be higher than their DEF to cause damage. Try using the "power up" symbol provided by Maria or by Adray. This may boost your ATK high enough to effect the enemies. You can also try synthesizing some Orichalcum to your weapons, which will add +500 to your ATK and should solve the problems. You can also use symbology which ignores DEF. Adray's Southern Cross or Deep Freeze should work. I think Fayt can also cast Deep Freeze.

Respectfully,

Brian P.
#5Mad_CartoonistPosted 12/4/2012 6:46:20 PM
Adray can already attain Southern Cross by that level? o.O
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#6pendellPosted 12/4/2012 7:51:48 PM
I believe Adray gets SC around level 40 or so.

Respectfully,

Brian P.
#7Mad_CartoonistPosted 12/4/2012 8:10:45 PM
Been a while since I last used Adray. XD
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#8SnugRex(Topic Creator)Posted 12/5/2012 10:05:18 PM
Maybe it was their def, though i was tearing apart magma men no problem as well as those guys with the wings that dash around. The only ones giving me problems were the zombies and the the male witch that rides the broom. In the end though i just ran back to arigylph and got a holy sword and had no further problems.

Does their def also effect if you drain mp as well?
#9Mad_CartoonistPosted 12/5/2012 11:47:52 PM
Drain MP? As in MP damage?

The damage formula for MP, as far as I know, is also driven from the base of ATK - DEF, so if the opponent has high def, it should pose the same problem with HP damage.
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#10hikagesanPosted 12/6/2012 12:43:15 PM
MP damage is the way to go here except for the lava-mudman types since they have alot. Increase MP damage on both short slots for the AI controlled characters. by then I've got Maria a beefed up gun so 1 or 2 hits with aiming device will take out fire zombies, witches or nova blaze easy.
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