Book 1 Tier List

#1MagusTheCzarPosted 11/23/2008 8:40:46 PM
Latest version posted by BB:

Top Tier:
Oguma
Abel
Marich
Hardain
Kain
Roshe
Navarre
Chainy

High Tier:
Marth
Julian
Katua
Paola
Barts
Sheeda

Mid Tier:
Minerva
Maji
Est
Samson
Raddy
Alan
Toms
Wendal
Rena
Linda

Low Tier:
Astoria
Kashim
Medea
Gordon
Machis
George
Saji
Ceaser
Ricardo
Banetou
Ellis
Maria


Bottom Tier:
Lawrence
Ulf
Doga
Chiki
Villuck
Boa
Michelan
Zaggaro
Jeigan
Thomas
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#2MagusTheCzar(Topic Creator)Posted 11/24/2008 1:01:24 AM
(Levels likely off a bit)
20/00 Barts.......HP: 33.0, Def: 13.5, Avoid: 32.0, Str: 17.5, Spd: 16.5
20/00 Maji.........HP: 21.7, Def: 11.8, Avoid: 27.6, Str: 12.1, Spd: 15.8
20/00 Saji..........HP: 35.3, Def: 13.5, Avoid: 14.8, Str: 16.5, Spd: 08.7
??/03 Astria......HP: 25.8, Def: 08.2, Avoid: 18.4, Str: 09.0, Spd: 14.4
??/01 Samson HP: 24.0, Def: 09.0, Avoid: 24.0, Str: 10.0, Spd: 17.0
12/01 Caesar...HP: 27.2, Def: 09.9, Avoid: 22.7, Str: 09.7, Spd: 15.8
10/01 Raddy.....HP: 26.1, Def: 09.8, Avoid: 22.9, Str: 10.5, Spd: 18.3
06/00 Tomth.....HP: 22.4, Def: 13.4, Avoid: 08.8, Str: 08.6, Spd: 05.6
16/01 Doga.......HP: 28.0, Def: 16.5, Avoid: 16.0, Str: 12.0, Spd: 12.0

16/01 Sheeda HP: 23.5, Def: 14.0, Avoid: 39.5, Str: 11.0, Spd: 20.0
??/06 Minerva HP: 24.0, Def: 13.0, Avoid: 22.0, Str: 10.5, Spd: 14.0
10/01 Paola....HP: 23.4, Def: 12.6, Avoid: 18.6, Str: 11.0, Spd: 13.4
05/00 Katua....HP: 20.4, Def: 07.6, Avoid: 21.4, Str: 05.8, Spd: 13.6

??/01 Alan.....HP: 24.0, Def: 10.0, Avoid: 15.0, Str: 08.0, Spd: 11.0
??/03 Medea HP: 21.6, Def: 09.4, Avoid: 17.2, Str: 07.6, Spd: 10.0
12/01 Machis HP: 25.0, Def: 11.0, Avoid: 13.0, Str: 11.0, Spd: 11.0


20/00 Barts.......HP: 33.0, Def: 13.5, Avoid: 32.0, Str: 17.5, Spd: 16.5
20/00 Maji.........HP: 21.7, Def: 11.8, Avoid: 27.6, Str: 12.1, Spd: 15.8
20/00 Saji..........HP: 35.3, Def: 13.5, Avoid: 14.8, Str: 16.5, Spd: 08.7
??/08 Astria......HP: 30.3, Def: 08.7, Avoid: 21.9, Str: 11.5, Spd: 15.4
??/06 Samson HP: 27.5, Def: 10.0, Avoid: 27.5, Str: 11.5, Spd: 18.0
12/06 Caesar...HP: 31.2, Def: 10.4, Avoid: 24.2, Str: 11.2, Spd: 16.8
10/06 Raddy.....HP: 30.6, Def: 10.8, Avoid: 26.6, Str: 13.0, Spd: 20.0
10/02 Tomth.....HP: 28.7, Def: 18.4, Avoid: 13.8, Str: 12.1, Spd: 10.1
16/06 Doga.......HP: 31.0, Def: 17.0, Avoid: 19.0, Str: 13.0, Spd: 14.0

16/06 Sheeda HP: 26.0, Def: 15.0, Avoid: 40.0, Str: 12.0, Spd: 20.0
??/11 Minerva HP: 26.0, Def: 14.0, Avoid: 26.0, Str: 12.0, Spd: 16.0
10/06 Paola... HP: 26.9, Def: 14.1, Avoid: 20.3, Str: 13.5, Spd: 14.4
10/01 Katua... HP: 23.9, Def: 13.1, Avoid: 27.4, Str: 10.8, Spd: 18.6
05/00 Est........ HP: 20.0, Def: 08.0, Avoid: 24.0, Str: 06.0, Spd: 13.0

??/06 Alan.... HP: 26.5, Def: 10.5, Avoid: 19.0, Str: 10.5, Spd: 13.0
??/08 Medea HP: 25.6, Def: 10.4, Avoid: 20.2, Str: 09.1, Spd: 12.5
12/06 Machis HP: 27.5, Def: 12.0, Avoid: 15.0, Str: 13.0, Spd: 12.0


20/00 Barts.......HP: 33.0, Def: 13.5, Avoid: 32.0, Str: 17.5, Spd: 16.5
20/00 Maji..........HP: 21.7, Def: 11.8, Avoid: 27.6, Str: 12.1, Spd: 15.8
20/00 Saji..........HP: 35.3, Def: 13.5, Avoid: 14.8, Str: 16.5, Spd: 08.7
??/13 Astria......HP: 34.8, Def: 09.2, Avoid: 25.4, Str: 14.0, Spd: 16.4
??/11 Samson HP: 31.0, Def: 11.0, Avoid: 31.0, Str: 13.0, Spd: 19.0
12/11 Caesar...HP: 35.2, Def: 10.9, Avoid: 25.7, Str: 12.7, Spd: 17.8
10/11 Raddy.....HP: 35.1, Def: 11.8, Avoid: 28.6, Str: 15.5, Spd: 20.0
10/07 Tomth.....HP: 32.2, Def: 19.4, Avoid: 15.8, Str: 13.6, Spd: 11.6
16/11 Doga.......HP: 34.0, Def: 17.5, Avoid: 22.0, Str: 14.0, Spd: 16.0

16/11 Sheeda HP: 28.5, Def: 16.0, Avoid: 40.0, Str: 13.0, Spd: 20.0
??/16 Minerva HP: 28.0, Def: 15.0, Avoid: 30.0, Str: 13.5, Spd: 18.0
10/11 Paola....HP: 30.4, Def: 15.6, Avoid: 21.8, Str: 16.0, Spd: 15.4
10/06 Katua... HP: 27.4, Def: 14.6, Avoid: 31.8, Str: 12.8, Spd: 20.0
10/01 Est........ HP: 22.5, Def: 13.0, Avoid: 30.5, Str: 12.5, Spd: 16.5

??/11 Alan.....HP: 29.0, Def: 11.0, Avoid: 23.0, Str: 13.0, Spd: 15.0
??/13 Medea HP: 29.6, Def: 11.4, Avoid: 23.2, Str: 10.6, Spd: 15.0
12/11 Machis HP: 30.0, Def: 13.0, Avoid: 17.0, Str: 15.0, Spd: 13.0

Mounted pplz must dismount for Chapters 14, 15, 18, and 20.
Barts > Everyone here
wtf at Doga below Toms
Fliers: Sheeda > Minerva > Paola > Katua > Est
#3BerserkerBladerPosted 11/24/2008 6:28:22 AM
Fine, fine. Toms to bottom, too.

"??/16 Minerva HP: 28.0, Def: 15.0, Avoid: 30.0, Str: 13.5, Spd: 18.0
10/11 Paola....HP: 30.4, Def: 15.6, Avoid: 21.8, Str: 16.0, Spd: 15.4
10/06 Katua... HP: 27.4, Def: 14.6, Avoid: 31.8, Str: 12.8, Spd: 20.0"

Are these endgame levels? There's no way those are accurate. There's no way Katua gets stuck at 10/6, Book 1 has WAY more EXP to go around than that.

also, you should leave avo out of your formulas. All it does is take up space and time since it almost never works anyway.

By the way, I'm thinking Maric>Oguma, actually. Beastly at fighting plus staves equals win. Espically since Staves benefit his endgame level so much.

And since he doesn't have much of a choice but to promote at 20 due to the guding ring coming so late, his defense could very well be better than Oguma's. Plus, 1-2 range is always welcomed.
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#4MagusTheCzar(Topic Creator)Posted 11/24/2008 10:51:25 AM
I question your somewhat excessive dislike of the Armor Knights, but I likely won't get to that for awhile.

The final set of stats I gave are not quite endgame, but I wouldn't think it's that far from it. They join in Chapter 11, and I gave Paola and Katua 12 levels. Too low I suppose, but fliers lose a lot of stats in 2 of the last 3 chapters anyways.

...Come to think of it, Katua is probably meh longer than she's good. The only chapters where's she's both mounted and likely to be promoted are 16, 17, and 19. Hmmm.

Oh, and I seem to have jumped on the gun on likely promotion times considerably. Lawl, some of the promotions I did in the first comparison are impossible in Chapter 13ish. Will fix later and adjust levels some. Suppose I'll leave out Avoid, though in some cases it does actually matter.

And since he doesn't have much of a choice but to promote at 20 due to the guding ring coming so late, his defense could very well be better than Oguma's.

I don't understand this statement. :(
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#5MagusTheCzar(Topic Creator)Posted 11/24/2008 12:51:22 PM
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#6MagusTheCzar(Topic Creator)Posted 11/24/2008 12:52:23 PM
20/00 Barts HP: 33.0, Def: 13.5, Str: 17.5, Spd: 16.5
20/00 Maji HP: 21.7, Def: 11.8, Str: 12.1, Spd: 15.8
20/00 Saji HP: 35.3, Def: 13.5, Str: 16.5, Spd: 08.7
??/05 Astria HP: 27.6, Def: 08.4, Str: 10.0, Spd: 14.8
??/01 Samson HP: 24.0, Def: 09.0, Str: 10.0, Spd: 17.0
13/01 Caesar HP: 28.0, Def: 10.0, Str: 10.0, Spd: 16.0
11/01 Raddy HP: 27.0, Def: 10.0, Str: 11.0, Spd: 19.0
08/00 Tomth HP: 23.8, Def: 13.8, Str: 09.2, Spd: 06.2
20/00 Doga HP: 31.4, Def: 12.9, Str: 10.8, Spd: 10.6
20/00 Sheeda HP: 25.5, Def: 10.8, Str: 08.8, Spd: 20.0
??/08 Minerva HP: 24.8, Def: 13.4, Str: 11.1, Spd: 14.8
12/00 Paola HP: 24.8, Def: 09.2, Str: 09.0, Spd: 13.8
07/00 Katua HP: 21.8, Def: 08.2, Str: 06.6, Spd: 15.2
??/01 Alan HP: 24.0, Def: 10.0, Str: 08.0, Spd: 11.0
??/05 Medea HP: 23.2, Def: 09.8, Str: 08.2, Spd: 11.0
15/00 Machis HP: 26.5, Def: 09.6, Str: 10.2, Spd: 08.6


20/00 Barts HP: 33.0, Def: 13.5, Str: 17.5, Spd: 16.5
20/00 Maji HP: 21.7, Def: 11.8, Str: 12.1, Spd: 15.8
20/00 Saji HP: 35.3, Def: 13.5, Str: 16.5, Spd: 08.7
??/10 Astria HP: 32.1, Def: 08.9, Str: 12.5, Spd: 15.8
??/06 Samson HP: 27.5, Def: 10.0, Str: 11.5, Spd: 18.0
13/06 Caesar HP: 32.0, Def: 10.5, Str: 11.5, Spd: 17.0
11/06 Raddy HP: 31.5, Def: 11.0, Str: 13.5, Spd: 20.0
13/01 Tomth HP: 28.0, Def: 18.8, Str: 12.7, Spd: 10.7
20/01 Doga HP: 31.4, Def: 16.9, Str: 12.8, Spd: 13.6
20/01 Sheeda HP: 25.5, Def: 14.8, Str: 11.8, Spd: 20.0
??/13 Minerva HP: 26.8, Def: 14.4, Str: 12.6, Spd: 16.8
17/01 Paola HP: 28.3, Def: 14.7, Str: 14.5, Spd: 14.8
12/01 Katua HP: 25.3, Def: 13.7, Str: 11.6, Spd: 20.0
05/00 Est HP: 20.0, Def: 08.0, Str: 06.0, Spd: 13.0
??/06 Alan HP: 26.5, Def: 10.5, Str: 10.5, Spd: 13.0
??/10 Medea HP: 27.2, Def: 10.8, Str: 09.7, Spd: 13.5
20/01 Machis HP: 29.0, Def: 12.6, Str: 14.2, Spd: 12.6


20/00 Barts HP: 33.0, Def: 13.5, Str: 17.5, Spd: 16.5
20/00 Maji HP: 21.7, Def: 11.8, Str: 12.1, Spd: 15.8
20/00 Saji HP: 35.3, Def: 13.5, Str: 16.5, Spd: 08.7
??/15 Astria HP: 36.6, Def: 09.4, Str: 15.0, Spd: 16.8
??/11 Samson HP: 31.0, Def: 11.0, Str: 13.0, Spd: 19.0
13/11 Caesar HP: 36.0, Def: 11.0, Str: 13.0, Spd: 18.0
11/11 Raddy HP: 36.0, Def: 12.0, Str: 16.0, Spd: 20.0
13/06 Tomth HP: 31.5, Def: 19.8, Str: 14.2, Spd: 12.2
20/06 Doga HP: 34.4, Def: 17.4, Str: 13.8, Spd: 15.6
20/06 Sheeda HP: 28.0, Def: 15.8, Str: 12.8, Spd: 20.0
??/18 Minerva HP: 28.8, Def: 15.4, Str: 14.1, Spd: 18.8
17/06 Paola HP: 31.8, Def: 16.2, Str: 17.0, Spd: 15.8
12/06 Katua HP: 28.8, Def: 15.2, Str: 13.6, Spd: 20.0
10/01 Est HP: 22.5, Def: 13.0, Str: 12.5, Spd: 16.5
??/11 Alan HP: 29.0, Def: 11.0, Str: 13.0, Spd: 15.0
??/15 Medea HP: 31.2, Def: 11.8, Str: 11.2, Spd: 16.0
20/06 Machis HP: 31.5, Def: 13.6, Str: 16.2, Spd: 13.6
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#7BerserkerBladerPosted 11/25/2008 9:03:54 AM
"I question your somewhat excessive dislike of the Armor Knights, but I likely won't get to that for awhile."

Do I need to keep going through with my durability comparision?

Remember Gordon still getting 3HKOd at Chapter 4? ...At his BASE LEVEL? It wouldn't surprise me if lategame enemies still couldn't one shot him.


"I don't understand this statement. :("

The guiding ring comes late. By the time you actually get it, Maric is lvl 20 for sure. This gives him 9 defense and 35 HP to work with on promotion, which is probably more than enough to work with considering lol Book 1, where Gordon is still getting 3HKOd at base level at chapter 4.

Factor in great durability plus staves [Which level fast PLUS are useful for healing PLUS he gets to use the good ones right away because Book 1's Wlvl system is screwed] plus 1-2 range, and I don't see how he's not better than Oguma. It's not like Maric doesn't join shortly after Oguma, and it's not like he's not almost as awesome as he is at jointime.

By the way, I do remember Barts's speed being a problem by endgame due to them being so damn heavy, but I'll look into it. Besides, it's not like anybody else wants those Speedwings, so if that fixes his doubling issue, he could be top tier.
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#8NoNameAtAllPosted 12/17/2008 7:06:05 AM
Heh, even in FE3, as crappy as Zaggaro is, he's STILL better than Thomas. XD.
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#9MagusTheCzar(Topic Creator)Posted 12/17/2008 12:41:02 PM
Top Tier:
Marich
Oguma
Abel
Hardain
Kain
Roshe
Navarre
Chainy

High Tier:
Marth
Barts
Julian
Katua
Paola
Sheeda
Minerva

Mid Tier:
Maji
Est
Samson
Raddy
Alan
Wendal
Rena
Linda

Low Tier:
Astoria
Kashim
Medea
Gordon
Machis
George
Saji
Ceaser
Ricardo
Banetou
Ellis
Maria

Bottom Tier:
Lawrence
Ulf
Doga
Toms
Chiki
Villuck
Boa
Michelan
Jeigan
Zaggaro
Thomas
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