GitErBucPosted 2/7/2011 6:04:35 PM | After using my Engineer on two playthrough runs on insanity, I can testify that Explosive Drone is far more useful. --- Doesn't matter if Obama was born American or not... American born presidents are the ones that screwed up the country anyway. |
final_chancePosted 2/7/2011 6:09:57 PM | Der. It dies too quickly on Insanity. --- "Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici" PSN ID: FatBeezzee |
johanleePosted 2/7/2011 7:16:04 PM | but which one is more effective killing enemies? I'm doing my Engineer Insanity run soon |
nycaznPosted 2/7/2011 7:22:02 PM | The drone isn't supposed to kill enemies primarily. They're useful for getting YMIR's off your ass and having Heavies kill themselves. --- If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong. |
sakuraartsPosted 2/7/2011 10:54:34 PM | for me casual or normal mode attack drone works wonders
but for hardcore and insanity definetely go for explosive
why explosive for hard modes because (for me) 80% of the time they die instantly as soon as the drone agros anyone in the game which makes em explode for revenge!
also explosive drone if still alive will keep enemies distracted whilst zapping there shield away (only) so it can attack as well if they have shields on --- Games, Games Everywhere! |
Bronze_StuffPosted 2/7/2011 11:36:00 PM | Explosive is better. Attack Drone needs far more HP to be useful in higher modes. |
Omega_GilgameshPosted 2/8/2011 12:47:19 AM | Explosive is better. Attack Drone needs far more HP to be useful in higher modes.
In theory, that's sound, but I watched a comparison video (on youtube, by a guy named ThatAverageGatsby) and the drones tended to last 12-16 seconds on average (the comparison was on Insanity), and during that time the Attack Drone did about as much damage as the Explosive Drone after exploding. --- On "Why are you imprisoned at the beginning of TESV: Skyrim?" "Being the wrong race, at the wrong time."-Irulesmost |
Bronze_StuffPosted 2/8/2011 1:00:11 AM | ^ To multiple targets? From my success as an Engineer, only one target is taking damage from the AD versus an ED hits everyone near it. Plus, Engineers can take down most of the protections in the game. Do I REALLY need another one? Smacking someone with an Incinerate, or Overload is a far better option. It does more damage. |
Sagem28Posted 2/8/2011 1:22:09 AM | Omega Gilgamesh posted... Explosive is better. Attack Drone needs far more HP to be useful in higher modes.
In theory, that's sound, but I watched a comparison video (on youtube, by a guy named ThatAverageGatsby) and the drones tended to last 12-16 seconds on average (the comparison was on Insanity), and during that time the Attack Drone did about as much damage as the Explosive Drone after exploding. --- On "Why are you imprisoned at the beginning of TESV: Skyrim?" "Being the wrong race, at the wrong time."-Irulesmost
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9pJ1iv48RI ^ Linky AverageGatsby is great. |
Bronze_StuffPosted 2/8/2011 1:48:49 AM | ^ As awesome as he is... He's not using it in the way that it's going to blow up. Because they blow up ALL the time on mine. That's not a very good mission to show off the ED. Don't know if he's just getting unlucky, but when I start, I throw a CD and it's killed pretty much immediately. And certain enemies are far better for using them on. Krogan, Mechs, Geth Destroyers. The enemies that I'd rather hit with CD are great. Plus, keeping them bunched up isn't hard either, as moves like throw can push them towards one another. If I knew my computer didn't just have the specs to run ME2 and run it smoothly, I'd definitely show what I mean.
Regardless of that, in the video, he clearly states that neither one is really better. He just prefers AD. Maybe I'm just unlucky, because any time I use it, it's literally like:
"ED is thrown on the ground it's show, it blows up and hits everyone around." Not to mention, that Engineer shield/armor crippling is insane. Plus, what you're supposed to do with it-- if you really want it to explode, is pop up, let stuff shoot at you and throw the ED in the way and it gets hit regardless of whether they want to hit it or not. Plus, ED is meant to be a bonus for when it's destroyed. Upon death, it blows up. A better comparison would be how much damage does the explosion do in conjunction with the raw damage dealt from ED in comparison. The video never really touches upon this. What I mean is this because I don't know the exact numbers for damage:
1) AD does 40 damage per shock, regardless of barriers etc, and then fades away upon death. 2 )ED does 20 to protection and then 40 to health, but 120 on explosion.
You see where I'm going with this? Removing protections would make ED infinitely better.
The fact of the matter is that the CDs aren't lasting long enough to NOT leave the field through damage in insanity... At the very least, CD death is far more common than survival. Thus, exploding on the way out seems better then it just fading away. I mean, try AD in LoTSB... It's pretty useless. ED on the other hand, it blows up so fast that it's undeniably better there. Especially on the boss. |