One thing I definitely think is pay to win about this game? Mounts.

#1pres_madagascarPosted 5/8/2013 9:29:21 AM
If you don't have a rank 3(purple/rare quality, the fastest ones) mount, don't even do pvp.

If youre only gonna pve, mounts are entirely optional. You can do just fine without one forever, it just makes getting around faster, but its not required, on foot you'll be fine as rhe areas are not TOO big.

However, in pvp, there is a distinct monumental advantage to having a rank 3 mount. Which, if you don't win one from the lockbox, buy one from zen shop, or have one from founder packs, will take you forever to get the manuals to upgrade your speed.

Your options are:
Pay for the fastest mounts in cash shop, founder pack, or with astral diamonds in the AH.
Or
Purchase a permanent horse for five gold or 30,000-40,000 diamonds, then the training manuals to upgrade it's speed, which will take you months to get enough astral diamonds for. It will actually take roughly the same amount of time it takes to get enough diamonds to convert to zen to buy a store mount of the fastest speed.

So while not truly pay to win as you can get a fast mount without money, itll just take forever, if you want to even stand a chance in pvp right NOW, yiu need to spend money on a fast mount.

I love this game, I'm just saying.
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#2Element_PearlPosted 5/8/2013 10:49:08 AM
Since the PvP is unbalanced and not fun anyway...who cares?
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#3pres_madagascar(Topic Creator)Posted 5/8/2013 10:52:48 AM
Element_Pearl posted...
Since the PvP is unbalanced and not fun anyway...who cares?


It is fun if you're a cleric, rogue, or great weapon fighter. And i imagine big pvp fans care.
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#4BearlyWillingPosted 5/8/2013 11:14:25 AM
How much are they charging for the mounts via microtransactions? I haven't seen any yet, because I tend to ignore the micro stuff, but a friend of mine said they seem to be a lot more prevalent in Neverwinter vs other F2P games.

...also, isn't this a beta? Is all of this going to carry over into the release version if it ever comes?
#5Element_PearlPosted 5/8/2013 11:43:34 AM
From: pres_madagascar | #003
Element_Pearl posted...
Since the PvP is unbalanced and not fun anyway...who cares?


It is fun if you're a cleric, rogue, or great weapon fighter. And i imagine big pvp fans care.


I'm a Cleric and I don't think it's fun. What's the point in dominating 60% of everyone you see, being killed by 20%, and only having interesting fights with a mirror match?
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#6pres_madagascar(Topic Creator)Posted 5/8/2013 12:34:12 PM
BearlyWilling posted...
How much are they charging for the mounts via microtransactions? I haven't seen any yet, because I tend to ignore the micro stuff, but a friend of mine said they seem to be a lot more prevalent in Neverwinter vs other F2P games.

...also, isn't this a beta? Is all of this going to carry over into the release version if it ever comes?


$30-$40 for the fast ones.
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#7BearlyWillingPosted 5/8/2013 1:06:35 PM
pres_madagascar posted...
BearlyWilling posted...
How much are they charging for the mounts via microtransactions? I haven't seen any yet, because I tend to ignore the micro stuff, but a friend of mine said they seem to be a lot more prevalent in Neverwinter vs other F2P games.

...also, isn't this a beta? Is all of this going to carry over into the release version if it ever comes?


$30-$40 for the fast ones.


LOL
#8SoulsendPosted 5/8/2013 1:13:44 PM
pres_madagascar posted...
Element_Pearl posted...
Since the PvP is unbalanced and not fun anyway...who cares?


It is fun if you're a cleric, rogue, or great weapon fighter. And i imagine big pvp fans care.


Or a CW, they do fine in pvp as well. Oh and the other day there I fought a match against 2 decked out t2 guardian fighters that tossed around everyone and won easily.
#9pres_madagascar(Topic Creator)Posted 5/8/2013 1:41:47 PM
Soulsend posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Element_Pearl posted...
Since the PvP is unbalanced and not fun anyway...who cares?


It is fun if you're a cleric, rogue, or great weapon fighter. And i imagine big pvp fans care.


Or a CW, they do fine in pvp as well. Oh and the other day there I fought a match against 2 decked out t2 guardian fighters that tossed around everyone and won easily.


Guardian is this game's high skill class. It is tremendously difficult to tank well with it so the people who play it at level 60 tend to be goddamn pros. Everyone else shelved it for another class by then.
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#10MrMonkhousePosted 5/8/2013 2:37:46 PM
If they remove mounts in PvP, does your opinion still stand?
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