I am beginning to get that feeling...

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Famine_10f4
Posted 8/19/2011 11:53:45 PM

That no matter what Ninja Theory does everyone and their mother is going to hate on it.

"Dante has black hair now?... OMG THEY'VE RUINED EVERYTHING THAT MADE DMC GREAT!!!"

"The graphics blow, they look like ps1... Oh no wonder it's running on the ultra crap machine the Unreal Engine"

"Its a prequel? But there is already a prequel!!! A reboot? Well which one is it a reboot or an origin story?... It couldn't possibly be both that makes no sense at all!"

"Donta is half Angle and Demon? Dumb, stupid, illogical!"

"A scythe? Scythes have to be the lamest of the lame weapons of all time... Wait there is an Axe? No wait that weapon is worse"

"The look is so unoriginal and poorly designed, its dull and just plain boring"

"Combat looks stiff, sluggish, slow, simple, unimpressive"

"Look at that developer!!! What a dumb hair cut"

... Seriously I can go on for another ten pages with all the absurd comments. Now I'm not some white knight that is attempting to cleans this hear board but come on guys, some of you are either over exaggerating making things sound way worse than they actually are or are simply too upset by the changes that nothing can make you happy.

I believe the developers at Ninja Theory are truly absorbed in this series and are not intentionally trying to screw over every DMC fan, what good would come out of that anyways? From what I've seen and heard it seems the developers have been putting in a lot of thought in an attempt at making a great game and it shows.

We still haven't seen that much either mind you.

Anomylous
Posted 8/20/2011 12:02:50 AM
No, they're not intentionally trying to screw anyone over, they do want to turn a profit. I do feel a bit of sympathy for them since it's clear all the complaints have had some effect (DT looks like old Dante, that just made things worse, but I don't think they had any choice).

The unreal engine might actually become an issue, though. No one wants a fast-paced action game to run slower/have fewer enemies at once.

The prequel/reboot thing is certainly silly, since it's pretty clear by this point it's a reboot and origin story. Prequel would imply it takes place before another DMC game in the same canon, but this doesn't.

The scythe complaint was just personal preference on the part of a few posters. I'm sure we can deal with it, some even like the new weapon.

The unoriginal comments were others noticing that, hey, it kind of reminds me of Dante's Inferno (I wouldn't know, never played it) or God of War etc etc. NT did say they want to innovate, so...maybe a new weapon that's never been seen before would be innovative. Or a holy scythe, I guess that's an unexpected combo.
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AJ2412
Posted 8/20/2011 12:21:57 AM
The scythe complaint was me. It's actually my main gripe about this game so far. >_>
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SinisterSamurai
Posted 8/20/2011 1:24:46 AM

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Famine_10f4 posted...
"That no matter what Ninja Theory does everyone and their mother is going to hate on it.

'The graphics blow, they look like ps1... Oh no wonder it's running on the ultra crap machine the Unreal Engine'"


The concern isn't about the graphics so much as the frame rate. Unreal engine displays at half the speed of previous games, so many gamers are worried about the potential upper limit on precision timing for things like dodging and such.

"'Its a prequel? But there is already a prequel!!! A reboot? Well which one is it a reboot or an origin story?... It couldn't possibly be both that makes no sense at all!'"

I realize that you are trying to be sarcastic, but, it literally can't be both a prequel and a reboot. By definition.

"'The look is so unoriginal and poorly designed, its dull and just plain boring'"
Short of Dante's redesign, I don't mind the art direction. I'm not so vain that Dante's redesign would be a deal breaker, but the change in the core personality traits, combined with the several other factors, might be.

"'Combat looks stiff, sluggish, slow, simple, unimpressive'"
We haven't seen combat. We've seen combos. We'd have to see behavior from the enemies other than their ability to take a hit in order to claim that we've seen combat. So far, this looks like an air-borne DMC3, but to be honest I didn't care for DMC3's non-boss "combat."

"From what I've seen and heard it seems the developers have been putting in a lot of thought in an attempt at making a great game and it shows.We still haven't seen that much either mind you."

These seem like contradictory points, here. But that could just be me.
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Malus_X6
Posted 8/20/2011 9:06:08 PM

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From: Famine_10f4 | #001
"Its a prequel? But there is already a prequel!!! A reboot? Well which one is it a reboot or an origin story?... It couldn't possibly be both that makes no sense at all!"


If you actually had done some research, you'd have found that I already explained how both could, in theory, work. I've dubbed it the preboot.

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Werndan101
Posted 8/20/2011 9:43:53 PM
Malus_X6 posted...
From: Famine_10f4 | #001
"Its a prequel? But there is already a prequel!!! A reboot? Well which one is it a reboot or an origin story?... It couldn't possibly be both that makes no sense at all!"
If you actually had done some research, you'd have found that I already explained how both could, in theory, work. I've dubbed it the preboot.


Link it.
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ZeroX91
Posted 8/20/2011 10:04:08 PM

You have to understand most of us "haters" didn't start out as haters, most came in as neutral parties, and most of us don't hate everything about the game I'm somewhat of a frame-rate zealot but that's my only real problem with the game. Contrary to popular belief most of the hatred stems from Tameens treatment of the fans not "Donte"s look. Next time dont just quote youtube comments.

Malus_X6
Posted 8/20/2011 10:17:24 PM

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From: Werndan101 | #006
Link it.


Link what? THe various posts I've made about preboot? I'll define it here and now.




preboot
noun
A means to reboot and restart a series. Differs from a traditional reboot as it also serves as a prequel by going farther back through the series timeline.


For example:
Traditionally, in a reboot such as Batman Begins, we see how Bruce Wayne adopts the Batman persona. If we were to go back farther, say, for sake of argument, we went back to the very upbringing of Bruce as a child. Sure, we saw bits and pieces, but what if that entire story was just about Bruce's upbringing? The next logical point would be to continue the series until the point where Bruce's parents were killed. Then after that, we continue through Bruce's hardships of living without his parents.

See where I'm headed?

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Anomylous
Posted 8/20/2011 10:24:08 PM
I thought everyone would generally understand this concept. Just ask the right questions, and the answers will come:

Q) When is this DmC taking place?
A) Before DMC3, because it's an "origin story" as said by devs

Q) Is this DmC the same canon as DMC?
A) Dante is a mix of angel/human/demon. This isn't Dante's original heritage. This isn't the same canon.

Q) So if it takes place before DMC3, but isn't going to connect directly to DMC3 because that would be nigh impossible without retcons, what is this?
A) A reboot. That takes place before where DMC3 would take place in the original canon. Thus if this game gets sequels, it will reach the time of DMC3, but have a slightly/drastically altered story.
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Malus_X6
Posted 8/20/2011 10:28:32 PM
I agree, it's no longer the same canon, but the word still describes it. Liberties WILL be taken, depending on the writer, but a preboot will be what it is: a reboot that takes place before the original story takes place.

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