The older DMCs are just not valid anymore.

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mad_hax_man
Posted 12/9/2012 9:47:37 PM

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JackJunk8 posted...
KA_ME_HA_ME_HA posted...


Pretty much. Just look at some of the most famous gamers. They're all in their mid twenties or older. Hell, look at achievement hunter.

Gaming is evolving to where anyone can play, but mostly it's young adults playing. 20 years from now, people might not be aware of some games, but the classics never die. To this day people still compare new games in a series to the oldest ones.

Every time a zelda gets released, it gets compared to OOT. Every. Single. Time.


Sorry but, devil may cry is not a classic, it's a cheesy badly written series whose only saving grace was gameplay, which even then got too big for it's britches. It started out as a wannabe resident evil and ended with campy anime homo-erotic garbage.



If starting its entire sub genre, having one of the best battle systems in the entire industry, having a massive influence on any hack and slash that came after it, including God of War and creating one of the most iconic characters of last gen doesn't allow to join the ranks of the classics, then I don't know what is.

And you know what, your whole relevancy argument is BS. If I did a survey in 2003, how many people would have heard of ICO? Very few. Yet you didn't see Sony trying to retool Shadow of the Colossus or The Last Guardian into something relevant.

This desperation of trying to appeal relevant is a bane on gaming. One of my problems with NT's writing is that they are so focused on what they think kids will find cool to the extent that it limits the potential of their writing. Studios attempting to appear relevant by chasing CoD figures have destroyed Final Fantasy, Silent Hill and Resident Evil.

A good game is a good game regardless of whether or not it appeals to young people

JackJunk8 posted...


to you the nolan movies are mediocre, but to most people they are master pieces.


This isn't hypocritical at all.
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KA_ME_HA_ME_HA
Posted 12/9/2012 9:42:59 PM
DMC is a classic in the H&S genre. Each genre does indeed have a set of classics, but some go past that and become just classics in general.
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NessaJ_TuN
Posted 12/9/2012 9:56:20 PM
JackJunk8 posted...
SBK91 posted...
When Nolan rebooted batman, he did what he wanted to do.

And it was mediocre.

Go do a Sting Chamelion and Infinity Mijinion perfect run and get back to me

I assume those aren't Action games.

GOW isn't that hard, even with your restrictions

So you've done the Clones and Perspephone then? Why not record it for us lowly mortals?

I know you can't be as amazing as me,

Amazingly scared of the Clones?

it's a cheesy badly written series whose only saving grace was gameplay,

>implying anything else matters

NOPE.jpg


to you the nolan movies are mediocre, but to most people they are master pieces.


Batman Begins and The Dark Knight actually a good movie imo, but Dark knight Rises is very disappointing and I know many people that actually not liking it as much as the other Batman Movies, still I think its better than old batman movie though.

Honestly Batman Arkham series is do Batman franchise more justice, because the game actually feel like a Batman game, while Nolan movies is just an action movie with Batman character and the villain, also I think Christopher Nolan is a bit overrated as director. there are better Director out there such as Ben Affleck, Darren Aronofsky, Bennet Miller, Tom Hooper, David Fincher and Clint Eastwood.
JackJunk8
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Posted 12/9/2012 10:08:58 PM
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mad_hax_man
Posted 12/9/2012 10:39:56 PM
JackJunk8 posted...

Sonic started a lot for sega, but look at him now, do i really need to mention 2006 or warehog? Sonic needs to be put out of his misery, along with Dante and his gay cowboy boots.


Sonic's downfall was, guess what? Sega trying to put him into 3d to keep him relevant in the 3d age, despite being a franchise relying on being in 2d.

And you know what. The gaming community themselves decided that Sonic was no longer relevant via bad sales and bad reviews. DMC4? Highest Hack and Slash sales outside God of War and strong reviews to back it up.
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KA_ME_HA_ME_HA
Posted 12/9/2012 10:43:01 PM
Sonic Generations was good. If they keep that up, he could make a comeback.... but that probably won't happen. I'd prefer a retro style new Sonic game. Kind of like megaman 9, with new levels and bosses.
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FireMage7777
Posted 12/9/2012 11:21:45 PM
JackJunk8 posted...
KA_ME_HA_ME_HA posted...
mad_hax_man posted...
knuxnole posted...
Pesmerga255 posted...

it is irrelevant to the old franchise, it's saying forget the old and try something new. This is not really for you. It's for newer people to discover.


There's no reason to forget the old if you're trying something new. Only children think that way.


Guess who the vast majority of video gamers are? xD


Haven't studies found the average gamer in their twenties now?


Pretty much. Just look at some of the most famous gamers. They're all in their mid twenties or older. Hell, look at achievement hunter.

Gaming is evolving to where anyone can play, but mostly it's young adults playing. 20 years from now, people might not be aware of some games, but the classics never die. To this day people still compare new games in a series to the oldest ones.

Every time a zelda gets released, it gets compared to OOT. Every. Single. Time.


Sorry but, devil may cry is not a classic, it's a cheesy badly written series whose only saving grace was gameplay, which even then got too big for it's britches. It started out as a wannabe resident evil and ended with campy anime homo-erotic garbage.


That post either confirms one of two things, you have no idea what you're talking about...or you're a troll
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KA_ME_HA_ME_HA
Posted 12/9/2012 11:23:24 PM
I thought we all knew Jack was a troll...

He may be one, but sometimes he posts some damn funny stuff.
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FireMage7777
Posted 12/9/2012 11:42:39 PM
SBK91 posted...
When Nolan rebooted batman, he did what he wanted to do.

And it was mediocre.

Go do a Sting Chamelion and Infinity Mijinion perfect run and get back to me

I assume those aren't Action games.

GOW isn't that hard, even with your restrictions

So you've done the Clones and Perspephone then? Why not record it for us lowly mortals?

I know you can't be as amazing as me,

Amazingly scared of the Clones?

it's a cheesy badly written series whose only saving grace was gameplay,

>implying anything else matters

NOPE.jpg


Did you seriously just imply that the MMX games aren't action games...I'm beginning to think you're as much of a fool as Galen Marek

I've done no damage against both on VH. I don't feel like getting proper recording equipment, mainly because I don't validation from others on how awesome I am

No I'm scared of being bored to tears, doing nothing but [],[],^ on a group then grab killing one until they're all dead
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derrick112
Posted 12/9/2012 11:59:52 PM
Of course he's a troll! I already outed him out for being a Big Fat Hypocrite! All this talk about how change is necessary yet he criticizes the same Capcom for making changes to Resident Evil. And you would think if he actually did studies based on whether DMC is recognizable he would have mentioned that right at the beginning instead of half assing it later to try and prove his point. Even then how he thought to mention it like it was an intellectual thing to do just shows how SAD of a person he is to be thinking about asking kids and teenagers if they have heard of DMC just to prove his point.
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