DmC: Devil May Cry

biohazardoud856 posted...

The Amazing Spider-Man movie was actually primarily based on the Ultimate comics. The origin, (Peter’s dad being a scientist… although he worked with Curt Connors instead of Eddie Brock Sr.). Gwen Stacy was based on the 616 continuity of course. But the reason why she was included was most likely simply because we already had Mary Jane in the original ones. There was also going to be change of events where it was actually Connors and Peter’s dad gave him the powers… and the spider bite was used to activate them. You can see hints of that in deleted scenes from the trailer.

The Dark Knight trilogy was also not based on any one Batman storyline. Most comic movies take bits and pieces (Spider-Man included) from different storylines to craft there own. It took inspiration from Batman Year One and The Long Halloween, Batman Year Two, The Killing Joke. Hell, the Dark Knight Rises was primarily based on the novel “A Tale of Two Cities”, with obvious inspiration from Batman stories like Knightfall, No Man’s Land, and The Dark Knight Returns.

You sound like you know somewhat of what you speak of. heres to attempting a civil convo with you:

I'm aware of the Ultimate traits that are used in the move for Spidey, however, I'm dead serious that that specific story was part of the very first story, and concept storyline for Spidey. From then on, all stories recreated for Spidey used MJ, and basically retconned Gwen from existence, untill the Ultimate series popped back up.
(the only reason I even know this is because me and my co-worker decided to do extensive research on this stuff, since he's considerably older then me, and knew more personally, so we just dug up a lot of resources to find out the real story)

About Batman, you are right in one aspect: They did use a couple of stories for it put together, however, the main story they used as a base was called "The Shadow of the Bat". All the villans, though, were from different series altogether.

KaijinSurohm posted...

biohazardoud856 posted...

The Amazing Spider-Man movie was actually primarily based on the Ultimate comics. The origin, (Peter’s dad being a scientist… although he worked with Curt Connors instead of Eddie Brock Sr.). Gwen Stacy was based on the 616 continuity of course. But the reason why she was included was most likely simply because we already had Mary Jane in the original ones. There was also going to be change of events where it was actually Connors and Peter’s dad gave him the powers… and the spider bite was used to activate them. You can see hints of that in deleted scenes from the trailer.

The Dark Knight trilogy was also not based on any one Batman storyline. Most comic movies take bits and pieces (Spider-Man included) from different storylines to craft there own. It took inspiration from Batman Year One and The Long Halloween, Batman Year Two, The Killing Joke. Hell, the Dark Knight Rises was primarily based on the novel “A Tale of Two Cities”, with obvious inspiration from Batman stories like Knightfall, No Man’s Land, and The Dark Knight Returns.

You sound like you know somewhat of what you speak of. heres to attempting a civil convo with you:

I'm aware of the Ultimate traits that are used in the move for Spidey, however, I'm dead serious that that specific story was part of the very first story, and concept storyline for Spidey. From then on, all stories recreated for Spidey used MJ, and basically retconned Gwen from existence, untill the Ultimate series popped back up.
(the only reason I even know this is because me and my co-worker decided to do extensive research on this stuff, since he's considerably older then me, and knew more personally, so we just dug up a lot of resources to find out the real story)

About Batman, you are right in one aspect: They did use a couple of stories for it put together, however, the main story they used as a base was called "The Shadow of the Bat". All the villans, though, were from different series altogether.

There was no intended argument there, but I don't believe that the characters from Spider-Man were ever rectonned from existence, at least not "pre-Ultimate". Stan Lee didn't even kill of Gwen. It was another writer, simply because after the death of her father, he didn't know how to develop her afterwards. I remember Stan saying that after he read it he had forgotten and was upset because he thought people who think they had a vendetta against the Stacy family. But it wasn't a recton.

As for Batman, that story could have been used as well... but that doesn't change what I said about the other stories... and "The Tale of Two Cities" nod. They said that actually was their first notion for Rises.

Although... Peter and Gwen were never an item in the Ultimate continuity. Not sure where you got that from. She lived with Aunt May and him after her father died, and then grew to hate him after she found out he was (inadvertantly) responsible for her father's death. Same as in the 616 universe. Then she was killed by Carnage a short while later. Can't comment much further on that as I had stopped reading the comics not long after that, though.

Comic continuity makes my head spin sometimes >_<