DmC2 more likely than DMC5...

#41OracleGunnerPosted 4/5/2013 2:59:27 PM
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Think of it this way. It would be like Capcom wanting to bring back Street Fighter Alpha so they reboot the series to mixed feelings. Now they want to continue the series, what do you think they would do? Make Street Fighter Alpha 4 or continue off the reboot? Again, its common sense.

Also if DMC5 was released in place of DmC no one has any knowledge on how well it would've sold. Many people here who hate DmC bought it and played it anyway. No way of knowing if DMC5 would sold much better or worse. I'm guessing it would've sold around the same as DmC, but well never know.


Again assumptions not fact or proof. Also don't start using games outside of the genre as an example it only weakens your statements.


Its an assumption on either side of the spectrum, only thing is people here like to act as if DMC5 would've been the beacon of DMC, but in reality no one knows how good it would've been or how well it would've sold.


Maybe but that has nothing to do with the topic. Again where is your proof that DmC is going to happen?


Topic title indicates DmC2 is MORE LIKELY than DMC5. And again it is. No one revisits a dead franchise, especially when a critically acclaimed reboot has already been made. Again, this is where common sense and an understanding of business comes into play.


Very well then product that has sold well and has been critically acclaimed by "professionals" and fans alike vs. product that hasn't sold well, was badly received by fans and has iffy reviews which one is most likely to continue? And again no proof to back up your claims that DmC2 is more likely than DMC 5.
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#43Mixorz(Topic Creator)Posted 4/5/2013 3:06:28 PM
@Oracle

Well maybe we can figure this out together. Usually when there is an uncertainty we look at history, and precedents set. Has there ever been a series which died, got a reboot, reboot sold under expectation and thus the previously dead franchise was brought back? And lets not count spinoffs (for example Halo ODST was a spinoff and the series resumed as normal with Reach, or Resident Evil Operation Raccoon City was a spinoff and the series resumed with 6).

To my knowledge there has never been, but you would really need to find a lot because one or two would be an exception to the rule, and an exception to a rule merely proves there is a rule to begin with.
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#44rockman11_zPosted 4/5/2013 3:08:41 PM
So Capcom will make a sequel from a game that flopped? Why?

Well, if they do that, I won't be surprised. If the new Xbox will have online DRM for all games which is insane, a potential sequel for this game is possible...

But Capcom will fail their sales expectation if they do DmC 2......
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#45StrelokPosted 4/5/2013 3:09:07 PM
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Think of it this way. It would be like Capcom wanting to bring back Street Fighter Alpha so they reboot the series to mixed feelings. Now they want to continue the series, what do you think they would do? Make Street Fighter Alpha 4 or continue off the reboot? Again, its common sense.

Also if DMC5 was released in place of DmC no one has any knowledge on how well it would've sold. Many people here who hate DmC bought it and played it anyway. No way of knowing if DMC5 would sold much better or worse. I'm guessing it would've sold around the same as DmC, but well never know.


Again assumptions not fact or proof. Also don't start using games outside of the genre as an example it only weakens your statements.


Its an assumption on either side of the spectrum, only thing is people here like to act as if DMC5 would've been the beacon of DMC, but in reality no one knows how good it would've been or how well it would've sold.


Maybe but that has nothing to do with the topic. Again where is your proof that DmC is going to happen?


Topic title indicates DmC2 is MORE LIKELY than DMC5. And again it is. No one revisits a dead franchise, especially when a critically acclaimed reboot has already been made. Again, this is where common sense and an understanding of business comes into play.


but when the "critically acclaimed reboot" doesn't make a profit...
So much for your business sense.
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#46MoreFunThanTVPosted 4/5/2013 3:12:33 PM
Critically acclaimed yes but also an epic financial failure, which one do you think matters the most to Capcom when deciding to put money into another game?

I'd say the next game is either gonna be DMC5 or nothing. This game has proven that it doesn't sell so at most they might make a cheap live/PSN game or something but another full console game? Why would they? To lose more money?
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#47myghostisdeadPosted 4/5/2013 3:19:01 PM
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DMC5 is a guaranteed 3+ million copies sold, DmC is not. Capcom rebooted DMC to use its team for other projects while they milk DMC. So , no to both and capcom isn't financially capable of taking risks or anything big at the moment.


You have proof DMC5 would sell more? Lol it could very well do worse than DmC.


You have proof it won't? You made this ridiculous topic, all of the burden of proof rests on you.


What I said was DmC2 is more likely than DMC5, and common sense dictates that. DMC is a done series. Capcom already moved on. DmC is now the main devil may cry series. They aren't going to go back to a finished series. Again, its common sense.


If we are going to be sensible about this then we should remember the comment by Leo Tan of Capcom when asked if there would be a DMC 5 her said Lets see how this reboot does first. So it sounded then that the success or failure of DmC, at that point in time and by his measure, would determine which direction if they decided to choose just one.

Then you have the many times of talking if both would run together and if this was a parallel universe.

That being said I wouldn't be surprised if they made a DmC2 but if they do much would have to be improved along with the PR and I don't know if the damage can be undone.
#48PunkMcThrustPosted 4/5/2013 3:20:52 PM
Yes, they're so much more likely to carry on with the failed reboot that sold very little rather than go back to the series that consistently sold millions every entry.

Your trolling is just plain pathetic now, you should give up, it's making me sad.
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#49Mixorz(Topic Creator)Posted 4/5/2013 3:21:19 PM
Again, no one knows how profitable this game was or wasn't. We don't know the budget, but we do know Capcom saved money by having NT develop it.

Lets not forget too that the units shipped are what make Capcom money. I never looked up that number but sold to the customer are where retailers make the profit. If Capcom shipped 2 million but 720K or whatever it is sold, they basically sold 2 million. Only thing is retailers won't want anymore because they will have an excess of product.

And again, the groundwork for DmC2 is already there, so chances are it would be even less to develop than DmC. And again, with a new generation of consoles, it would be a smart business move for Capcom to take advantage of that and release DmC2 as a launch title. It will not only sell better, but set a strong foothold for DmC as a franchise (and no I don't have proof they're doing this, but an understanding of business makes this scenario very plausible). Or at the very minimum release a DmC upgraded edition (next gen graphics, new content etc.).
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#50Mixorz(Topic Creator)Posted 4/5/2013 3:24:03 PM
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So Capcom will make a sequel from a game that flopped? Why?

Well, if they do that, I won't be surprised. If the new Xbox will have online DRM for all games which is insane, a potential sequel for this game is possible...

But Capcom will fail their sales expectation if they do DmC 2......


DMC5 is another gamble that may or may not pay off. Also, they haven't shown they're ready to abandon ship yet, so there's no indicator that they will give up on DmC at this time.
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