Finally Platinumed the ENTIRE series. (Spoilers probably)

#11Ink-RibbonPosted 4/23/2013 7:42:23 PM
DuuuDe14 posted...
I pity you TC



I pity your chair...

Is it platinum made? XD
#12Xtreme65(Topic Creator)Posted 4/23/2013 11:32:29 PM
FireMage7777 posted...
qlaxmicmizzel38 posted...
Lol you guys are seriously embarrassing yourselves arguing with this guy. Every time you try to make a point you're just grasping at straws and you keep trying to correct his opinions.

Did all of the smart antis get bored and finally leave? Lol, as if there were any to begin with


His opinions are bad


How are they bad? Most of my reasoning cannot be dismissed.

DmC has more combat options than DMC1 FACT

DmC has ALOT more combat options than DMC2 FACT

DMC3 has more moves in total but you have access only to so many at a time. You have access to more moves in DmC all at one time. (might be a fact I dunno I would have to count them. Still theres more weapons to switch between.)

DmC Dante has more combat options than Nero which you play as for over half the playthrough of DMC4. FACT

I prefer playing as DMC4 Dante over any character in the series. When I get in the mood for Bloody Palace I play DMC4 as Dante. But DmC did do somethings right and the anti's are to stubborn to admit it. I don't consider myself pro or anti. I just like to give credit where its due, and the truth is I didn't find DmC to be that bad. I understand why other think so. It's just that some of the games shortcomings don't bother me as much as the others.

Gotten used to not having a lock on.
Easy games don't bother me.
Arbiter and Eryx may lack moves but I still find uses for them
Lackluster story cutscenes can be skipped (hell DMC never had a good story to begin with)
Aquila fixes DT problem (I actually like Quicksilver and Bangle of time)
30fps just doesn't bother me considering I play alot of 30fps games.
Color coded enemies simply do not bother me. I actually find them to be okay

I find the combat very enjoyable. More than most HnS games, and I think i have very good reasons for thinking as such. So get off your high horse and stop thinking people are wrong for liking this game.
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#13NostalgiaRulesPosted 4/23/2013 11:34:52 PM
Congratulations on platinuming the entire DMC series.
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Newer isn't always better.
And I shall keep Dante's Force Edge polished and sharp till he comes back.
#14Xtreme65(Topic Creator)Posted 4/23/2013 11:38:16 PM
Thanks. Honestly the hardest one was trying to S Rank a mission in DMC2 because its ranking system is broken.

DMC1 on DMD was also hard.

DMC3 was easy for the most part until I hit the final boss on DMD. That fight was NUTS!!!
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When coincidence is so convenient, I prefer to call it fate.
#15NostalgiaRulesPosted 4/23/2013 11:42:25 PM
Xtreme65 posted...
Thanks. Honestly the hardest one was trying to S Rank a mission in DMC2 because its ranking system is broken.

DMC1 on DMD was also hard.

DMC3 was easy for the most part until I hit the final boss on DMD. That fight was NUTS!!!


Dude, any DMC on DMD is hard. But for me, DMC 1 takes the cake. Those annoying Shadows...*grumble mutter*
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Newer isn't always better.
And I shall keep Dante's Force Edge polished and sharp till he comes back.
#16KyryloPosted 4/23/2013 11:52:55 PM
Xtreme65 posted...
But a lack of lock on was also annoying because now you have to double tap the joy stick in order to do stinger. Why? It was so much easier to do it the other way. Why change it? Stinger is one of the most used moves in Dante's arsenal so yeah this is a HUGE deal.

Didn't really have a problem with the weapon switching controls but than again I have played HS before so I was already used to it. But honestly I do not see a better way to do it and still have access to all the weapons. DMC3's worked because well there was only two of each weapon to switch between. In DMC4 you sometimes had to hit it twice in order to do the combo you wanted and honestly I wasn't really a fan of that. DmC's feels much smoother than that.

Now something we can all universaly agree on. The DT. Now I DO like the Bangle of Time and Quicksilver but for some reason DmC's DT has to throw the enemies up into the air unnecessarily. If it wasn't for Aquila's ability to bring all the enemies in , it would have been very hard to combo. Whoever thought this was clever needs to be fired. Having said that though I still prefer the old DT of DMC4 over everything else. It was cool to transform into a demon have have exceptionally more powerful moves and some of their functions changed altogether. Slowing down time IS useful, just not as interesting. Ultimately the DT is flawed in DmC.

So IMO

DmC>DMC1 because it has more weapons and combo potential

DmC>DMC2 because of well......almost everything except DT.

DmC=DMC3 because while DMC3 has more weapons and a better DT I like how I can use everything in DmC at once.

DmC=DMC4 because I hate playing as Nero for most of the game but DMC4 Dante with style switching and having access to all his weapons almost blow DmC Dante out of the water. I say almost because I do like having the grapple hook as DmC Dante.

Just my 2 cents though.

sorry, but you forgot 2 aspects in your opinion. Enemies and exploration. And at this point let be honest, if you add those 2: DmC > DMC1,3,4 and DmC=DMC2. No exploration, dull enemies and worst bosses in whole franchise.
#17caffiend7Posted 4/24/2013 1:28:33 AM
DmC isn't part of the series, and you've tainted your trophies with that turd, a turd that will never wash away the anger. A turd that people from now on will judge you accordingly because you played DmC. Your trophies are now festering in a goo of crap and pus with the unused animal parts they use to make hotdogs in a sea of cream sauce. They don't know who you are but they will find you.

GOOD LUCK
#18Orange00Posted 4/24/2013 1:36:32 AM
Good post TC. I feel mostly the same way as you about the series. I haven't platinumed these games yet (don't have the collection :(), so congrats on that.

it's pretty hard to discuss about DmC's positive sides here because there is a large group of people that claim it a cold hard fact that DmC sucks and is instantly inferior to past games because of 2 points: FPS and combat depth. It is a ridiculous idea because video games are a sum of dozens of things and majority of them are completely subjective matter and vary from person to person.

then one runs into some elitist gamer who automatically assumes his opinion is more valid because of his supposed experience.

in the end, at least i've given up on trying to defend this game to these folks. As you said they're too stubborn and their ranks are too united for them to even consider anything alternative.
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#19Xtreme65(Topic Creator)Posted 4/24/2013 3:01:43 AM
Kyrylo posted...
Xtreme65 posted...
But a lack of lock on was also annoying because now you have to double tap the joy stick in order to do stinger. Why? It was so much easier to do it the other way. Why change it? Stinger is one of the most used moves in Dante's arsenal so yeah this is a HUGE deal.

Didn't really have a problem with the weapon switching controls but than again I have played HS before so I was already used to it. But honestly I do not see a better way to do it and still have access to all the weapons. DMC3's worked because well there was only two of each weapon to switch between. In DMC4 you sometimes had to hit it twice in order to do the combo you wanted and honestly I wasn't really a fan of that. DmC's feels much smoother than that.

Now something we can all universaly agree on. The DT. Now I DO like the Bangle of Time and Quicksilver but for some reason DmC's DT has to throw the enemies up into the air unnecessarily. If it wasn't for Aquila's ability to bring all the enemies in , it would have been very hard to combo. Whoever thought this was clever needs to be fired. Having said that though I still prefer the old DT of DMC4 over everything else. It was cool to transform into a demon have have exceptionally more powerful moves and some of their functions changed altogether. Slowing down time IS useful, just not as interesting. Ultimately the DT is flawed in DmC.

So IMO

DmC>DMC1 because it has more weapons and combo potential

DmC>DMC2 because of well......almost everything except DT.

DmC=DMC3 because while DMC3 has more weapons and a better DT I like how I can use everything in DmC at once.

DmC=DMC4 because I hate playing as Nero for most of the game but DMC4 Dante with style switching and having access to all his weapons almost blow DmC Dante out of the water. I say almost because I do like having the grapple hook as DmC Dante.

Just my 2 cents though.

sorry, but you forgot 2 aspects in your opinion. Enemies and exploration. And at this point let be honest, if you add those 2: DmC > DMC1,3,4 and DmC=DMC2. No exploration, dull enemies and worst bosses in whole franchise.


DmC had decent exploration. You would know that if you tried to find all the lost souls and keys to secret rooms. Is it better than past games? Well DMC1 had the best exploration IMO but its not by much. The enemies aren't to terribly bad, I find them to be a bit better than DMC3's glorified punching bags. Bosses are pretty bad though, don't know if I'd call them the worst as DMC2 had some pretty bad ones. (Infested Helicopter being the worst.)
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#20zfair89Posted 4/24/2013 4:11:39 AM
I can't agree with your points about DMC3. Part of what made that game so cool was that you could specialise and make your 'own' Dante. Whereas everyone played with the same Dante in DmC. You might not have as many air combos as you do in DmC but in DmC you don't have royal guard and just release. You don't have wall-run and teleport. You don't have as many skills.

Even on that last point it's not just a matter of how many skills you have but the things you can do with them. DMC3 Dante is just a hell of a lot more versatile than DmC Dante. None of the other games gave you that level of control, besides DMC4.