DmC and other Capcom titles have failed Capcom's sales expectations

#81rockman11_z(Topic Creator)Posted 9/24/2013 10:56:31 AM
QCTeamkill posted...
TheOriginalMax posted...
rockman11_z posted...
Why make games that we don't want?


Because, like all "good" narcissists, they "know better" than anyone else in this world. They even know better than you on what your opinions are and what you like. Even if you say you like chocolate ice cream, they tell you you're wrong and that you like vanilla ice cream, not chocolate.

Not only that but when they come face to face with a logical problem in their reasoning it's suddenly a conspiracy theory made against them by other people(the fans in this case) to make them lose face, and all other people are lying when they contradict the narcissist(s). This is, after all, because they know better anyway, and since they know better, even truths must be wrong because, you guessed it, they know better than anyone, and since they know better the things conceived as truths by other people(but not them) can't be true because they don't agree with it! Knowing better know better is of knowing better in knowing better and everyone else is a feeble minded piece of crap cuz these feeble minded poc's don't know better.

inb4 Capcom comes out with a statement: "We lost our money due to a conspiracy with alien mind control devices in the drinking water that forced every fan(who in reality just want to suck on our junk of course, because there is no other logical outcome to how awesomely better knowingly awesome we are) to not be able to buy our products even though they wanted the products. It's such a shame something like this happened to our portable wallets, but do not be afraid, we're here to f you in the a. If you don't want us to, then there's something very wrong with you and you should go die. But not before you give us your money, because you want to, anyway. We of course made no errors, fans just don't know what they want and we do know what they want. They want to give us their money because all the things we do is divine."

And yes, there is a contradiction in that quote, welcome to how a narcissist's brain functions.


See that's how a narcissists fanboy's brain function:

"Capcom so dumb! Let any 12yo kid be CEO of this major player in this billions USD market and he'll forcefully sucessfully write, design, develop, score and publish the most awesome Megaman that will sell more than GTA!"


As a fellow NG elite player, do you believe Capcom is making the right decisions lately?
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#82StrelokPosted 9/24/2013 11:26:26 AM
Are you seriously insinuating that MML3 would have flopped as much as this game QCT?

I believe that the Mediterrean sea just went sweet, all its salt has poured into you.

Good grief that is salty.
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#83QCTeamkillPosted 9/24/2013 11:43:21 AM
rockman11_z posted...
QCTeamkill posted...


See that's how a narcissists fanboy's brain function:

"Capcom so dumb! Let any 12yo kid be CEO of this major player in this billions USD market and he'll forcefully sucessfully write, design, develop, score and publish the most awesome Megaman that will sell more than GTA!"


As a fellow NG elite player, do you believe Capcom is making the right decisions lately?


I'm not elite, unless there's a senior class lol.

It's not even about Capcom actually, to be in the "upper management" lane you go the MBA route. Those guys could be sitting at the top of a McDonald's or Times Warner or IBM, mostly any public company and they would still be applying the same basics.

That being said, how does it affect the products being made? A LOT. The bigger you get, the more likely you'll be going against microeconomic views.

Purely theorical scenario here:
If you picked Ninja Theory to make a game on your franchise, use the UK tax credits, show your investors you are also creating employment in the occident. Suddenly your stock becomes eligible to be picked in "buy local" types of "moderate risk" stock potfolios. The whole speculative value of your stock rises simply by being available to more buyers.

Current news articles claim Capcom having little money in the bank, that doesn't only mean the company has little left to invest in their own new projects, but also makes them very vulnerable to a hostile takeover. Having a lot of money in the bank means another company would have to buy your share for a high speculative value only to buy that: overpriced money.

Conclusion: The 'boys go "Why Capcom no Megaman you so dumb!" and I picture 12 guys in suits talking about ROI who doesn't give 2 cents about the little guy that jumps around with his mouth opened. You guys have better luck discussing about kickstarter projects instead of NYSE CCOEF.
#84TheOriginalMaxPosted 9/24/2013 11:45:04 AM
rockman11_z posted...
QCTeamkill posted...
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As a matter of fact I can't see... Your post. *sad trombone*
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#85rockman11_z(Topic Creator)Posted 9/24/2013 11:53:24 AM
QCTeamkill posted...
rockman11_z posted...
QCTeamkill posted...


See that's how a narcissists fanboy's brain function:

"Capcom so dumb! Let any 12yo kid be CEO of this major player in this billions USD market and he'll forcefully sucessfully write, design, develop, score and publish the most awesome Megaman that will sell more than GTA!"


As a fellow NG elite player, do you believe Capcom is making the right decisions lately?


I'm not elite, unless there's a senior class lol.

It's not even about Capcom actually, to be in the "upper management" lane you go the MBA route. Those guys could be sitting at the top of a McDonald's or Times Warner or IBM, mostly any public company and they would still be applying the same basics.

That being said, how does it affect the products being made? A LOT. The bigger you get, the more likely you'll be going against microeconomic views.

Purely theorical scenario here:
If you picked Ninja Theory to make a game on your franchise, use the UK tax credits, show your investors you are also creating employment in the occident. Suddenly your stock becomes eligible to be picked in "buy local" types of "moderate risk" stock potfolios. The whole speculative value of your stock rises simply by being available to more buyers.

Current news articles claim Capcom having little money in the bank, that doesn't only mean the company has little left to invest in their own new projects, but also makes them very vulnerable to a hostile takeover. Having a lot of money in the bank means another company would have to buy your share for a high speculative value only to buy that: overpriced money.

Conclusion: The 'boys go "Why Capcom no Megaman you so dumb!" and I picture 12 guys in suits talking about ROI who doesn't give 2 cents about the little guy that jumps around with his mouth opened. You guys have better luck discussing about kickstarter projects instead of NYSE CCOEF.



But you do know that we, the consumers and fans, pay their products and without us, Capcom's finances will struggle, right?
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#86QCTeamkillPosted 9/24/2013 12:23:09 PM
rockman11_z posted...
But you do know that we, the consumers and fans, pay their products and without us, Capcom's finances will struggle, right?


Of course, they want to sell a lot of video games.

I'm talking about which projects is getting a go and which is canned, and why the question goes way beyond "But I grew up playing Megaman games they can't stop making more now".

There seemed to be a lot of hype around Mirror's Edge, but when the reveal happened at E3 barely anyone clapped, and the buzz ain't there anymore. Maybe the decision to green-light Mirror's Edge wasn't that good after all.
#87rockman11_z(Topic Creator)Posted 9/24/2013 12:30:38 PM
QCTeamkill posted...
rockman11_z posted...
But you do know that we, the consumers and fans, pay their products and without us, Capcom's finances will struggle, right?


Of course, they want to sell a lot of video games.

I'm talking about which projects is getting a go and which is canned, and why the question goes way beyond "But I grew up playing Megaman games they can't stop making more now".

There seemed to be a lot of hype around Mirror's Edge, but when the reveal happened at E3 barely anyone clapped, and the buzz ain't there anymore. Maybe the decision to green-light Mirror's Edge wasn't that good after all.


Why can a project if the game is asked by a lot of fans? I mean, is it right to discontinue a project that would make a sale ?

Yes people grew up playing Megaman games so of course people would want more of those most especially if they did get serious and make a really good one.
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#88QCTeamkillPosted 9/24/2013 12:42:33 PM
rockman11_z posted...


Why can a project if the game is asked by a lot of fans? I mean, is it right to discontinue a project that would make a sale ?

Yes people grew up playing Megaman games so of course people would want more of those most especially if they did get serious and make a really good one.


I don't know, ask those 12 guys in suits.

Invest in a franchise they already know the full potential of, that means it's limited (not "dumb" limited, I mean "finite") that also means they can already almost certainly tell if it's going to hit the numbers they are looking for or not.

Let's say it's not, so they're 100% sure no bonus check this year.

OR, start a new project, hope to strike GOLD and get yourself nice bonus check.
#89rockman11_z(Topic Creator)Posted 9/24/2013 1:15:45 PM
QCTeamkill posted...
rockman11_z posted...


Why can a project if the game is asked by a lot of fans? I mean, is it right to discontinue a project that would make a sale ?

Yes people grew up playing Megaman games so of course people would want more of those most especially if they did get serious and make a really good one.


I don't know, ask those 12 guys in suits.

Invest in a franchise they already know the full potential of, that means it's limited (not "dumb" limited, I mean "finite") that also means they can already almost certainly tell if it's going to hit the numbers they are looking for or not.

Let's say it's not, so they're 100% sure no bonus check this year.

OR, start a new project, hope to strike GOLD and get yourself nice bonus check.


Of course we don't know. Unfortunately it comes back to the main question:

Did Capcom really made the right thing in terms of making the decisions about their games?
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