I get the feeling if this hadn't been called "Resident Evil"

#21SSJ_JinPosted 3/28/2013 6:22:20 AM
FreakyFranc posted...
SSJ_Jin posted...
edward. Just because you don't like RE4 doesn't mean RE4 got a bunch of negative reviews.


I'll try to explain what me and Edward18 are trying to say in a way you will understand.

Lets take exemple by using this board.

There are 3 kind of groups in this board.

1.The ones that like RE4,5 and 6 but doesnt like the older ones. ( 30%)

2.The ones that doesnt like RE4,5 and 6 but like the older ones. (30%)

3.The ones that like both RE4,5,6 and the older ones. (40%)

(trolls are also included)

Lets say that RE 4,5 and 6 were not made as RE games but as a different game with no RE characters and no refferences to Umbrella or any RE related things,what would happen ?

There would still be the peoples from group 1 and 3 of course and they will merge into one group,but since its not a RE related game,a lot of peoples from group 2 would join that group (group 1 and 3 merged) since its not a RE game.

So in the end there would be 2 groups left.

1.The one that like this new original title game. (80%) 'So more peoples,more better scores and good reviews'.

2.The one that doesnt like this new original title game. (20%)

Do you finally understand now,because i wont repeat myself .


Aww, that's sweet. Now let me explain myself in a way that you will understand. There was nothing like RE4 when it came out. It was nothing but positive reviews. The only reason now people, (the outspoken voal minority) say it "killed RE" is because the titles that followed have used its formula in a bad way, not going back to the original way RE was played. Even so, despite current titles, RE4 is still viewed as one of, if not, the best RE game.

Second, using this board is futile because this site doesn't represent the world at all, this site houses many trolls, and you have the same people, like edward, constantly repeating why RE4 is the worst RE game.

Do you finally understand now? Because I won't repeat myself.
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#22edward18Posted 3/28/2013 6:26:14 AM

Aww, that's sweet. Now let me explain myself in a way that you will understand. There was nothing like RE4 when it came out.


...Doom had been around for years...

It was nothing but positive reviews.

Except for from people like me, which would have no problem with it if it weren't an RE game.

The only reason now people, (the outspoken voal minority) say it "killed RE" is because the titles that followed have used its formula in a bad way, not going back to the original way RE was played.

Or because of the reasons I've always said: http://warahi.deviantart.com/art/Why-Don-t-You-Like-Resident-Evil-4-357678234


Even so, despite current titles, RE4 is still viewed as one of, if not, the best RE game.

As an RE game it's crap.

Do you finally understand now? Because I won't repeat myself.

Not really as that doesn't say at all how it gets better reviews for being an RE game rather than if it wasn't one.
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#23YaBreakinYoNeckPosted 3/28/2013 6:52:41 AM(edited)
edward18 posted...
Except for from people like me, which would have no problem with it if it weren't an RE game.


Nobody cares about the vocal minority, though, that's why you've been wrong this entire topic bringing up RE4.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil_4#Reviews
http://www.metacritic.com/game/gamecube/resident-evil-4
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/resident-evil-4
http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii/resident-evil-4-wii-edition

Where as RE6

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil_6#Reception
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/resident-evil-6
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/resident-evil-6

If RE6 was called something else, it would have been received better. This isn't the same with RE4 because it was new, fresh at the time, and actually really good.
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#24ssj_duelistPosted 3/28/2013 6:59:04 AM
edward18 posted...
In my opinion as an RE game, 4-onwards is crap. And again, it would've gotten MORE positive reviews had it not been labeled RE.


Fixed.
#25edward18Posted 3/28/2013 8:16:44 AM
Nobody cares about the vocal minority, though, that's why you've been wrong this entire topic bringing up RE4.

The vocal minority still exists whether or not you ignore it.

There is no right and wrong when it comes to opinions other than what you think is right and wrong based on your own opinion.

This isn't the same with RE4 because it was new, fresh at the time, and actually really good.

And it was crap as an RE game.
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#26ZeratulthekingPosted 3/29/2013 5:39:26 AM
edward18 posted...
Nobody cares about the vocal minority, though, that's why you've been wrong this entire topic bringing up RE4.

The vocal minority still exists whether or not you ignore it.

There is no right and wrong when it comes to opinions other than what you think is right and wrong based on your own opinion.

This isn't the same with RE4 because it was new, fresh at the time, and actually really good.

And it was crap as an RE game.


Except when you throw your opinion down someone's throat like you have been this WHOLE topic.

Yeah that's great you didn't like RE4, but the majority of everyone else liked it.

At the person that broke down the %s, you are flat out wrong in that. Because either people loved RE4 and hate 5/6, or loved 5/6 and thought 4 was crap. I don't know of a person that compares 4-6 and says they are the same. There is a good % of people that say the series declined after 4 due to the use of mechanics that they've changed.

I personaly love 1-4 and see nothing wrong with any of them. But please tell me how finding an arbitrary key and knowing exactly it opens a door on the other side of the map without ever looking at it makes sense. This explains it perfectly the logic of the older RE games: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCutLc37KSk

If anything RE4 took out all that randomness and made it make sense what you were working towards. It gave you a clear cut objective and said you need to find xyz to get into this area. Before you would just stumble around to figure a way to actually go until you found an item to let you into more places. All because the premise usually was, well I can't leave the area there are 3-4 monsters outside and its not safe.
#27ChelskiFan2Posted 3/29/2013 5:57:42 AM
If this hadn't been called Resident Evil it would have been called a CHEAP Resident Evil knock off... so no, it wouldn't be considered a good game either.
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#28edward18Posted 3/29/2013 7:16:02 AM

Except when you throw your opinion down someone's throat like you have been this WHOLE topic.


Because people discuss it with me.

Yeah that's great you didn't like RE4, but the majority of everyone else liked it.

Good for them? Doesn't mean you have any right to shut someone else up.

At the person that broke down the %s, you are flat out wrong in that. Because either people loved RE4 and hate 5/6, or loved 5/6 and thought 4 was crap. I don't know of a person that compares 4-6 and says they are the same. There is a good % of people that say the series declined after 4 due to the use of mechanics that they've changed.

...I haven't talked about 6.

I personaly love 1-4 and see nothing wrong with any of them.

I love 0-CV.

But please tell me how finding an arbitrary key and knowing exactly it opens a door on the other side of the map without ever looking at it makes sense.

...what are you talking about? What makes you think you're supposed to know that automatically?

This explains it perfectly the logic of the older RE games: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCutLc37KSk

God damn I can't stand ads.

Now as for the actual video, god damn that animation is crap.

Don't see why he'd complain about how many cranks there are though. There are only two. And wtf about there being no door in the piano room. There was NEVER any ****ing trap like that in the old games. And to top it all off, this is nothing like RE. It isn't everyday life. It's a secret illegal experimentation facility that a special police force was investigating.

If anything RE4 took out all that randomness and made it make sense what you were working towards.

Screw that. If it is a numbered sequel it better damn well play like its predecessors.

It gave you a clear cut objective and said you need to find xyz to get into this area.

I don't want that! I want to be able to get lost and figure out things for myself. That is one of the things Metroid fans can't stand when it happens in Metroid!

Before you would just stumble around to figure a way to actually go until you found an item to let you into more places.

Precisely.

All because the premise usually was, well I can't leave the area there are 3-4 monsters outside and its not safe.

...there was likely a hell of a lot more danger in the Arklay Mountains than just 3-4 Cerberuses. Also, 1 is the only game where that was the issue.
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#29ZeratulthekingPosted 3/29/2013 11:01:12 AM
So you telling everyone to shut up and their opinion is wrong is somehow different than anyone else saying the same thing to you?

Please explain how that makes any level of sense, when you are not discussing and showing points you are literally saying no my opinion is right yours is wrong, with 0 evidence. You have literally not said anything in this topic other than quote a topic someone else wrote. Which coincidently has the same level of bad animation of the random video I found explaining why the original RE make no sense.

Since when do video games EVER have to play the same exact way as the previous instance of the game.
Take FF series for one, not one of them play like another at ALL. Nor do the stories have anything to do with another. Super Mario World 1 +2 play very different as well.
Could find other as well, but any sequel I've played sure didn't play the same as the first instance. Because who would buy a game that didn't evolve or change how it was to make it better over time.

If we all viewed games like that we would be playing pong 100 and still have the same screen just in different colors.
#30edward18Posted 3/29/2013 10:31:21 PM
So you telling everyone to shut up and their opinion is wrong is somehow different than anyone else saying the same thing to you?

When did I EVER do that?...EVER? In ANY topic?

Please explain how that makes any level of sense, when you are not discussing and showing points you are literally saying no my opinion is right yours is wrong, with 0 evidence.

When have I done that?

You have literally not said anything in this topic other than quote a topic someone else wrote.

Where did I quote anyone?

Which coincidently has the same level of bad animation of the random video I found explaining why the original RE make no sense.

....are you talking to me even?

Since when do video games EVER have to play the same exact way as the previous instance of the game.

Never. Doesn't mean I'm not allowed to be pissed when they don't.

Take FF series for one, not one of them play like another at ALL. Nor do the stories have anything to do with another. Super Mario World 1 +2 play very different as well.

Cause Super Mario World 2 wasn't Super Mario World 2 really. And I don't like that either.

Could find other as well, but any sequel I've played sure didn't play the same as the first instance.

Yeah, and I never like that. If they make a Metroid 5 it better damn well be a sidescroller.

Because who would buy a game that didn't evolve or change how it was to make it better over time.

*points to self*

If we all viewed games like that we would be playing pong 100 and still have the same screen just in different colors.

...why would you think that?
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