Ada and leon secret relationship? Spoilers

#51rubyeyedlobaPosted 6/28/2013 9:07:09 PM
IlDanko posted...
That code veronica and RE4 beta thing is just a what if.. it doesn't really count since it never happened... The Recaps in the chronicles games are considered non canon, and even if they were i don't see the flirting anywhere... I can't talk of degeneration since i literally fell asleep watching it and i think i didn't even got to leon and Claire's meeting... and i will not attempt to try seeing it very soon xD

And about the Sherry thing, just Claire acted as a parent, Leon not knowing Simmons until the events of RE6 proves he didn't saw her (maybe didn't even talked to her) until her release, that was in 2009.. So that means like 11 years out of contact.. That really doesn't seems like a parent to me


No, no, he talked to her. He went as far to state that she was the only reason he survived Raccoon City. She was his and Claire's hope. He couldn't see her because Claire was the only one allowed into Simmon's house. There's a huge difference between can't and won't. The fact he knew she'd become an agent even though he couldn't see her proves he kept tabs on her via his own means and Claire's.

And I don't think it's fair to count out the what if scenarios. A lot of Leon and Ada's relationship is based on what ifs and left to the player's imagination. Did they spend a night together? Did they see each other more than we think they did?

So if it's so easy to phanton possible meeting between Leon and Ada, it shouldn't be hard to phanton Leon and Claire meeting to talk about Sherry and other things. Given that it's been proven Leon and Claire do meet and have each other's cellphones and Claire was the one who introduced Leon to Chris. Even in the files, it says the only thing Chris and Leon have in common is Claire.

Sherry also considers Leon to be her savior and she's extremely sweet to him once they meet in RE6. Had he been absent or had he strayed from her, I don't think she'd act so natural around him. We would get at least a 'It's been so long since I've seen you!'.

We don't get any of that which to me just seems like we're supposed to believe they have been in contact.
#52IlDankoPosted 6/28/2013 10:07:02 PM
rubyeyedloba posted...

No, no, he talked to her. He went as far to state that she was the only reason he survived Raccoon City. She was his and Claire's hope. He couldn't see her because Claire was the only one allowed into Simmon's house. There's a huge difference between can't and won't. The fact he knew she'd become an agent even though he couldn't see her proves he kept tabs on her via his own means and Claire's.

Sure she was his reason to survive back in 1998, after she was taken by the government there was no more interactions between them since to get to her it was needed Simmons approval.. Sure he knew about her becoming an agent since that was after she was freed.. And yeah it could have been Claire who told him..

And I don't think it's fair to count out the what if scenarios. A lot of Leon and Ada's relationship is based on what ifs and left to the player's imagination. Did they spend a night together? Did they see each other more than we think they did?


That's why i don't believe in their relationship..

So if it's so easy to phanton possible meeting between Leon and Ada, it shouldn't be hard to phanton Leon and Claire meeting to talk about Sherry and other things. Given that it's been proven Leon and Claire do meet and have each other's cellphones and Claire was the one who introduced Leon to Chris. Even in the files, it says the only thing Chris and Leon have in common is Claire.


Sure Claire and Leon could have met to talk about Sherry... So how does that implies about a relationship between them?.. And i don't get how Chris gets into the picture xD

Sherry also considers Leon to be her savior and she's extremely sweet to him once they meet in RE6. Had he been absent or had he strayed from her, I don't think she'd act so natural around him. We would get at least a 'It's been so long since I've seen you!'.

Well she considers him as that because that's what he is... Sure we didn't got a "its been so long bla bla bla" yet we got that "I've heard you became an agent" which works in the same way since she got that job immediately after she was freed in 2009...

We don't get any of that which to me just seems like we're supposed to believe they have been in contact.

Or they didn't
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#53SSJ_JinPosted 6/29/2013 1:46:12 PM
Ahh, I was waiting for it. I was waiting for someone to bring up the errors in Archives 1.

GameFAQs logic: Everything I don't agree with = an error in the Archives, thus is false.

lol. No, simply no. Let's do some Phoenix Wright up in this mug!

longstorm555 posted...
i will make Ruby's words, mine:


Big mistake. See this is why you don't just believe what you read on a message board without researching. You don't get all the facts. I was gonna leave ruby alone, but since you decided to quote him, I'll get a two for one. ;)

''The Archives is heavily criticized for its grammatical errors due to the english translation and one of the complaints was the description of Leon and Ada's relationship. In some, it says Ada is in love, in others it says she is thankful.


First of all, Archives Volume 1 has the errors. What you obviously don't know is that the Archives isn't one book....it's two. The 2nd book does not have the errors like the first book and is recognized for this.

Second of all, the errors in Volume 1 are hardly major. Here's a list of what the errors actually are like:

http://residentevil.wikia.com/List_of_translation_errors_in_Resident_Evil_Archives

Oooooo. So major. The Archives CLEARLY aren't correct! </sarcasm> These are literally as bad as it gets with the book. But...what about Rebecca? Why didn't it list that? The answer: because that Rebecca being dead error is so small (text) and in a place so irrelevant and easily missed, it was missed by whoever wrote this page! More on this later.

Third, you COMPLETELY made up Leon and Ada's relationship being an issue, ruby. COMPLETELY made that up. Shouldn't have copy and pasted that, longstorm. That's not a complaint in the Archives at all. ruby literally just picked "Archives errors" with his false opinion that Ada doesn't love Leon and put them together. WRONG! lol Also more on this in a bit.

Besides, the Archives list Rebecca Chambers as dead, which is a mistake.


And I repeat: this is why you don't just believe something on a message board without researching first. Sorry, ruby oh pal. You simply read this and think now that the Archives write her off as dead. Orly!? Well then, let's see:

http://i.imgur.com/lFj9gHW.jpg

Rebecca's bio. Let's see what is said, shall we?

http://i.imgur.com/MTAZg70.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tSMy7rx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0a5P6HT.jpg

Now where did it say she died? *gasp* It didn't! In the RE0 summary it doesn't say she died. In the RE1 summary isn't doesn't say she died. So where did this "Archives said she died" come from?

Well it's true, there is one part. See in the Archives, before it summarizes the stories for the main games, it gives a relationship chart. This chart shows how characters are connect and somewhat their status.

Now in the chart for RE3, it mentions Bravo team. And by Rebecca's name....it says "Died." But in the chart for RE2, it has the same list with Rebecca's name..."Survived." Same with previous ones.

I should have taken a picture of the chart as well, but again it's so easily missed. And it's clearly a mistake that they wrote in ONE place of the book.
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#54SSJ_JinPosted 6/29/2013 1:46:32 PM
So if you're going to put evidence on the table, you have got to make sure it's not one that kills characters that are alive and that have horrible translations errors because it just breaks the point you are trying to make.


Bzzzzt, wrong. The Archives doesn't say she is dead. Only in that small chart do they accidentally write that. When in the chart before it it does not say that.

There is no "horrible translations" in the book. There's a few minor things, (most which was listed above) that are actually corrected within the book itself.

And now, on to Ada. As I stated, ruby thinks the Archives is one book. But it isn't. It's two. And again, the 2nd book is praised for being better than the first because it does not have those minor errors the first book does. So let's see Ada's bio from the first Archives, shall we?

http://i.imgur.com/j9BJQ57.jpg

Now let's see what it says about Leon:

http://i.imgur.com/nBo5duM.jpg

Now let's pretend that ruby's false accusation is true. The Archives was wrong in saying that Ada fell in love with Leon. Alright, then let's see what Archives Volume 2, the one without the minor errors and is more properly translated, says about Ada and Leon:

http://i.imgur.com/Smw11jX.jpg

There's her page.

http://i.imgur.com/LmlHvr6.jpg

Look at the bottom of that and combine it with the next page:

http://i.imgur.com/97UMOI9.jpg

And there you have it. Even the second book, the more properly translated book, says Ada fell in love. Excluding even the fact that the second book is correct, what are the odds that two different books that has two different wordings are translated to say that Ada fell in love with Leon? Very, very low.

So please, stop the GameFAQs logic. The Archives is written by Capcom. You will know everything you need to know with these books if you desire. I'd highly recommend these for any fan. The errors, only in the first, are so pathetically minor even a casual would either pick up on them, (like that one part saying Rebecca died) or not even care, (like how it says a crow is from this game when it should be from another).

I'm sorry, longstorm. You thought you were right because someone else said something. Unfortunately you listened to the wrong guy. So if you still want to think Ada and Leon shared no love...

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=6772827

And lol, what is this!?

And again, the RE6 relationship chart has Leon and Ada as 'fateful bond/doomed love'. Its not a happy thing. It's not 'love' love. It means they care for each other but can never be together. It's a doomed thing that they didn't even get to start.''


You...just proved yourself wrong. Wow. But anyway, what relationship chart? I'd love to see it. I guess it's in the art book that was released?

IlDanko posted...
SSJ_Jin posted...
LOL...one day you will learn.


..... Ouch


It was just a joke, bro, nothing serious. I don't feel I "owned" you as was stated. I did own longstorm and ruby though lol.
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#55saleonkennedy(Topic Creator)Posted 6/29/2013 2:15:51 PM
Man you guys are really going at it to prove your point. So is the general opinion ada and leon lve each other?
#56largerockPosted 6/29/2013 2:36:34 PM
Dear lord...The walls....WALLS EVERYWHERE!
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#57rubyeyedlobaPosted 6/29/2013 3:20:26 PM
largerock posted...
Dear lord...The walls....WALLS EVERYWHERE!


They'll crumble and kill us all with GameFaqs rage posts.
#58SSJ_JinPosted 6/29/2013 3:30:45 PM
saleonkennedy posted...
Man you guys are really going at it to prove your point. So is the general opinion ada and leon lve each other?


Meh, I wouldn't call it going at it. There's nothing to prove, really. Everyone knows Leon <3 Ada and vice versa. I just felt like proving them wrong with pics, that's all.

rubyeyedloba posted...
largerock posted...
Dear lord...The walls....WALLS EVERYWHERE!


They'll crumble and kill us all with GameFaqs rage posts.


Rage posts? lol. So you've been owned and now are going to ignore it. I don't blame you. There's nothing else you can really say. You must now refer to me as King!
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#59good_tobiPosted 6/29/2013 3:54:38 PM
SSJ_Jin posted...
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dude, this is just great. I hadn't seen these before. So thanks. I also remember seeing a scan somewhere where there is a brief analysis of Leon's "she is like a part of me..." saying he speaks as if he is speaking to himself not Ashley , is that too in archives?

And yup you did own them...like a proud saiyan lol.

Are these scans yours?

Leon and Ada have feelings for each other. I don't know why you refuse to accept the obvious. I'm actually kind of shocked this is debatable.


Agree. Personally I think some group of fans debate just to reassure themselves or just to irk others. Also, story has never been a strong point for RE games and i doubt Capcom will go any further than this.

as for the relationship chart

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120806200317/residentevil/images/b/b7/Chart1.png

its called kusareen....I asked my japanese friend about this who said that it kinda has dual meaning i.e. you're destined to be together in a +ve sense or you are still going to be together even though you don't like it or know its bad..in a -ve sense.
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#60rubyeyedlobaPosted 6/29/2013 6:14:32 PM
good_tobi posted...
SSJ_Jin posted...
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dude, this is just great. I hadn't seen these before. So thanks. I also remember seeing a scan somewhere where there is a brief analysis of Leon's "she is like a part of me..." saying he speaks as if he is speaking to himself not Ashley , is that too in archives?

And yup you did own them...like a proud saiyan lol.

Are these scans yours?

Leon and Ada have feelings for each other. I don't know why you refuse to accept the obvious. I'm actually kind of shocked this is debatable.


Agree. Personally I think some group of fans debate just to reassure themselves or just to irk others. Also, story has never been a strong point for RE games and i doubt Capcom will go any further than this.

as for the relationship chart

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120806200317/residentevil/images/b/b7/Chart1.png

its called kusareen....I asked my japanese friend about this who said that it kinda has dual meaning i.e. you're destined to be together in a +ve sense or you are still going to be together even though you don't like it or know its bad..in a -ve sense.


That's so funny! My japanese friend said it's fateful bond/doomed love.

Hmmmm....