Wait, so why is the Cloud of Darkness on the side of Chaos? (FFIII, 012 spoilers

#1EnlongPosted 12/4/2012 4:04:07 PM
Villain or no, the Cloud of Darkness is a being that pretty much abhors imbalance and disorder. According to Final Fantasy III's lore, the Cloud of Darkness (or Light, depending on the situation) is called forth in response to great imbalances in the world, of either Light or Darkness, and seeks to restore the balance by reducing everything to zero.

Evil or no, you'd think that it would basically abhor working for a god of imbalance. I mean, even its part in the 12th cycle takes this to mind, with her giving Laguna info on the Manikins, because it abhors the disorder they've brought into the realm.

All in all, it seems like Chaos made a really odd choice in selecting it.
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#2I eat foodPosted 12/4/2012 4:08:05 PM
The Cloud of Darkness actively tried to cause imbalance so she could blow up the world in Final Fantasy III and used Xande to do it, so I think he hired her for her destructolust.
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#3Enlong(Topic Creator)Posted 12/4/2012 4:28:20 PM
I thought it was that Xande released a flood of darkness for the purposes of locking the world in temporal stasis, so he wouldn't have to die.

And that caused an imbalance that summoned the presence of the Cloud, who then possessed Xande to basically finish the job of bringing it into the world so it could annihilate everything.
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#4negi_magicianPosted 12/4/2012 5:09:16 PM
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I thought it was that Xande released a flood of darkness for the purposes of locking the world in temporal stasis, so he wouldn't have to die.

And that caused an imbalance that summoned the presence of the Cloud, who then possessed Xande to basically finish the job of bringing it into the world so it could annihilate everything.


Correct. Xande got the gift of mortality from the same master who gave gifts to Unei and Doga. He feared death so he froze time on the surface world, and that cause the Cloud to re-awaken for their purpose when time got unfroze... or maybe before it was unfroze (just considering that their realm probably existed outside of normal space anyways, as demonstrated by the 4 warriors of darkness being trapped there after death).
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#5Enlong(Topic Creator)Posted 12/4/2012 7:54:16 PM
Come to think of it, Xande would probably make a more enthusiastic warrior of chaos. Setting aside even the fact that he is definitely not opposed to imbalancing the world, he'd probably be ecstatic about a realm of warriors who are returned to life with each cycle (or so he'd think until Shinryu was done with him, anyway).
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#6negi_magicianPosted 12/4/2012 9:49:48 PM
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Come to think of it, Xande would probably make a more enthusiastic warrior of chaos. Setting aside even the fact that he is definitely not opposed to imbalancing the world, he'd probably be ecstatic about a realm of warriors who are returned to life with each cycle (or so he'd think until Shinryu was done with him, anyway).


Err, he didn't care about imbalancing the world. He just cared about avoiding facing his newly found mortality.
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#7Enlong(Topic Creator)Posted 12/4/2012 10:29:09 PM
Right. Imbalancing the world wasn't his goal, so much as it was a means to an end. That end being avoiding death. What I meant was that the whole imbalance wasn't abhorrent/a reason to destroy everything, like it is with the Cloud.

Still, though, a setup like the war of the gods, where the warriors are revived with ech cycle, would probably seem like a sweet setup to him. And he'd probably keep believing that until Shinryu ate his soul or whatever it is he does with warriors he considers "done".

Xande's kind of like, the reverse-Kuja. Whereas Kuja decided to make sure nothing outlived him, Xande decided to avoid death by any means.
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#8negi_magicianPosted 12/4/2012 10:35:35 PM
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Right. Imbalancing the world wasn't his goal, so much as it was a means to an end. That end being avoiding death. What I meant was that the whole imbalance wasn't abhorrent/a reason to destroy everything, like it is with the Cloud.

Still, though, a setup like the war of the gods, where the warriors are revived with ech cycle, would probably seem like a sweet setup to him. And he'd probably keep believing that until Shinryu ate his soul or whatever it is he does with warriors he considers "done".

Xande's kind of like, the reverse-Kuja. Whereas Kuja decided to make sure nothing outlived him, Xande decided to avoid death by any means.


In other words, Xande wears a manthong as well? Because if you've ever played Deathspank: Thongs of Virtue, you'd know the opposite of a thong is... another thong.
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#9Enlong(Topic Creator)Posted 12/4/2012 10:47:59 PM
Naw, just the least appealing pants in the galaxy. (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Xande)

Though, who knows what he's wearing UNDER those.

...and now I need to wash my brain.
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#10negi_magicianPosted 12/4/2012 10:53:04 PM
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Naw, just the least appealing pants in the galaxy. (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Xande)

Though, who knows what he's wearing UNDER those.

...and now I need to wash my brain.


alt outfit's him in a thong.

and kefka gets a new outfit with him in a thong. because arkham asylum had the joker ask what batman's really afraid of, and starting listing things. last of which was "me in a thong?" and we all know kefka and the joker are pretty much the same on a generic basis.
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